Sexual orientation - the progressive view

[Bud Struggle]

You are taking this the wrong way. Like I said before, no one is trying to turn people into gays. My point is that homosexuality should not be demonized, for it has very valuable advantages, such as no babies are born to a gay couple, thus world population growth eases somewhat (humanely I might add)

Nice humanist thought--but really the origins of homosexuality POLITICALLY should not be a a matter of discussion. People should or should not be gay only on their own SAY SO. Science or genetics or psychology to back things up is nice, but it should mean nothing in the long run politically when it comes to people's self determinization.

People should choose who and what they are for themselves...no other criteria should apply.

[danyboy27]

You are taking this the wrong way. Like I said before, no one is trying to turn people into gays. My point is that homosexuality should not be demonized, for it has very valuable advantages, such as no babies are born to a gay couple, thus world population growth eases somewhat (humanely I might add)

well, demonized or not, some people are born gay, even if we would write the advantages of being gay in huuge Blimps and do ton of PR stuff, it wouldnt change jack shit to the current situation, we dont control our sexual attractiveness.

it just dosnt make sense to say we shouldnt demonize homosexuality beccause it have many advantages, since its a factor we dont control.

on the other hand, you can say we shouldnt demonize homosexual beccause hey, they are people too you know.

make more sense if you ask me.

[Klaatu]

I agree with both of you in that, a person's sexual life is no one's business. It's just that I am frustrated by when I see people being looked down upon because of things in their lives out of their control (sex, as well as race, ethnicity, etc) and are NOT choices. Homosexuality is NOT a choice. It is an instinct.

My idea was based on sports games (the best defense is a good offense) Changing peoples' minds requires a complementary effort of opposition to change their indoctrinated, biased views.

Now, capitalism, on the other hand, is a choice, and can be cured. Just had to toss that one in

[Decolonize The Left]

I agree with both of you in that, a person's sexual life is no one's business. It's just that I am frustrated by when I see people being looked down upon because of things in their lives out of their control (sex, as well as race, ethnicity, etc) and are NOT choices. Homosexuality is NOT a choice. It is an instinct.

My idea was based on sports games (the best defense is a good offense) Changing peoples' minds requires a complementary effort of opposition to change their indoctrinated, biased views.

Now, capitalism, on the other hand, is a choice, and can be cured. Just had to toss that one in

I agree with you re: this specific point on sexuality, but capitalism is not a 'choice.' Capitalism is a global economic system and one cannot simply choose to 'not be a capitalist' in the sense that this is a viable alternative to the system at hand. Capitalism can only be combated by massive worker movements to reclaim capital for the working class, it cannot simply be 'dropped out of.' This technique has been attempted and leads to nothing but isolation and eventual reintegration into the capitalist economy.

Furthermore, capitalism is not a disease to be 'cured.' It is a stage in economic development which cannot be 'undone' or 'made right.' It is high time we accept that capitalism, however destructive and exploitative, is a necessary economic system which is to be overcome, not forgotten.

- August

[Klaatu]

Yes, I almost forgot that Marx himself had considered capitalism to be a sort of stepping stone, so to speak, on the road to world fairness and equality. (Socialism)

[Illiteration]

This may seem a bit romantic, but I think some (maybe not all) people fall in love with a person, not a gender. That's how it works for me, anyway.