The human mind has a fantastic ability to recognize patterns where they don't exist.
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What would be the 'left' explanation as to how and why deja vu occurs ?
There's many personal experiences of it that can't really be attributed to past dreams.
The human mind has a fantastic ability to recognize patterns where they don't exist.
Marxist theory has it that the phenomenon known as 'deja vu' is, following on from the concept that mind follows being, in fact a physical symptom of man's alienation from his Gattungswesen brought about by capitalist exploitation. It first appears in The Holy Family but made little impact (although Marx's use of it The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte is one of his best known quotes) and was more or less airbrushed out of the Marxist canon during the Second International years. It was revived however by Lenin (in Materialism and Empirio-Criticism) and is a key aspect what become dialectal materialism. 'Deja vu' officially did not exist in the later USSR given that this was a supposedly socialist society. One of the quickest ways to draw the attention of the NKGB/KGB was to exclaim "Whoah... deja vu". Perhaps ironically, 'deja vu' is now considered, along with alcoholism and the strain of tearing down Stalin statues, to be one of the key factors in the startling decrease in Russian life expectancy post-1991
March at the head of the ideas of your century and those ideas will follow and sustain you. March behind them and they will drag you along. March against them and they will overthrow you.
Napoleon III
lol
Deja vu should be looked at from a scientific viewpoint, not a political one.
"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."
--- Karl Marx, in _The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte_, 1852
Except, Hegel was a farce both times...
Last edited by Rosa Lichtenstein; 16th June 2010 at 12:51.
i think we need to define deja vu. i personally have deja vu and i think it is linked to some of my mental illness though i wonder which one. there are very often situations that are very new but i am certain happened before thus i feel deja vu. it may have to do with my pot intake (i stopped for 3 month and don't want to ever start again) but i still feel alot of it.
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Marx - the better you're paid, the more golden your chains
Mindtoaster - I like that he only talks about long lines to see the doctor as TEH HORRORS OF COMUNISUM which he allegedly fled from
if you attack a posh shop like Starbucks, the poor people wouldn't care. Some of them would actually like it because you make rich kids frown. They actually get more pissed off if you do those peaceful, long marches that cause traffic jams because they all use public transport. -thomasludd
I don't think there's a correlation. I did a video a while back about pot myths and I couldn't find any study that showed any correlation (sources in the video's details).
Nevertheless, I would define déjà vu as seen on wikipedia:
"the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the recent past), although the exact circumstances of the previous encounter are uncertain."
That being said, if deja vu is indeed a sign of mental illness, then I must be really on my final hour, because sometimes I get what I call a "deja vu of the 5th degree", the experience of feeling sure that I have witnessed or experienced a new situation 5 times previously. It's kind of scary.
To speculate is human; to hedge, divine
I recently heard that deja vu is simply a processing error occurring between your short and long term memory. It goes roughly along the lines of your short term memory getting caught up with your long term memory, giving the impression that you have been or experienced something before. This is in no way the definite answer to what causes deja vu though, just hearsay that I can't even back up through a source!
Maybe our brains are just powerful enough to imagine different situations, and that sometimes some of these will be similar to ones we actually experience.
it's nothing to be scared of, i just have a shitload of deja-vu constantly and i do wonder to what it is linked to. i thought weed had an impact since it does mess with long term and short term memory. maybe pot abuse? because i did smoke far too much of it.
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Marx - the better you're paid, the more golden your chains
Mindtoaster - I like that he only talks about long lines to see the doctor as TEH HORRORS OF COMUNISUM which he allegedly fled from
if you attack a posh shop like Starbucks, the poor people wouldn't care. Some of them would actually like it because you make rich kids frown. They actually get more pissed off if you do those peaceful, long marches that cause traffic jams because they all use public transport. -thomasludd
deja vu is not a political question. so fuck off.
Last edited by meow; 31st August 2010 at 12:59.
The "left" explanation? Capitalist oppression, i suppose.
Without starting a new thread on a nearly same topic, what's your explanation of 'karma' ? is it just bullshit ? can it be coincidence ? ........ ?
glitch in the matrix.
Capitalist exploitation.
LOL, naughty boys.
Overall I see it as just coincidence (as a materialist of course) if 'it' does occur, but would like to believe in it as reality, as not doing so would see the filth that slithers on the planet not get their deserved comeuppance.