Hispanics/Latinos can be white...
Hypothetical racism from Latinos are usually targeted to anglo-saxons, etc (non-hispanic whites).
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You are misunderstanding what the term "economic libertarian" means. Libertarianism is basically a philosophy that says that individuals shouldn't have an external authority controlling them. So, economic libertarianism is a philosophy which says that the best economic situation would be one in which the government did nothing to control the market. I'm talking about how the terms are used in everyday discussion. The majority of the people calling themselves libertarian, who actually run for and get elected to public office, are economic libertarian. That's how they get away with calling themselves 'libertarian' while at the same time opposing things like abortion, gay marriage, and drug legalization. It's confusing and deceptive. The desirable kind of libertarian is social libertarian, not economic libertarian, since economic libertarianism amounts to free market ideology which results in an unequal distribution of wealth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
Hispanics/Latinos can be white...
Hypothetical racism from Latinos are usually targeted to anglo-saxons, etc (non-hispanic whites).
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
That would bring about the collapse of capitalism, which seems inconsistent with "libertarian" (actually propertarian or some other term, since libertarianism is properly a synonym of anarchism consistent with its origin as a political term), ideology. Uncontrolled markets have never and can never be a viable condition of the capitalist economy, and if "laissez-faire" policies were applied now, it would simply perpetuate the consequences created by past statist intervention in the phase of primitive accumulation of capital.
I know what's meant by the terms; I simply disagree with the current nature of their application, though that conflicts with descriptive semantics. This is because I believe that the continued usage of the present definitions will cause greater long-term confusion even if deviation from them causes short-term confusion.
I've never heard of a "libertarian" politician opposing same-sex marriage and drug legalization, or at the very least "states' rights" perspectives on the issues, though they can go either way on abortion rights. Someone who simply ran on a rightist economic platform wouldn't be distinct from mainline conservatives.
Economic libertarianism is the philosophy which will produce economic liberty, which is not capitalism and its authoritarian labor markets. The fundamental axioms of so-called "libertarianism" may be "free market" in nature, but since capitalism has never been characterized by free markets and never can or will be, the actual policies advocated by propertarians end up strengthening statist interventionism, making them guilty of the "vulgar libertarianism" that Kevin Carson speaks of. Free markets actually require socialism, and the elimination of the concentration in interdependent oligopolies that macroeconomic policy sustains under capitalism.
Classical liberalism, for its faults, was focused on agrarian individualism (among property-owning Anglo-Saxon males of age). Modern corporate capitalism has no relationship to that, and defense of it is similarly unrelated to classical/economic liberalism, apart from the Rawlsian sense in which the term "liberal" is currently used.
I wasn't thinking clearly since I would have known better than to issue a presumptuous correction when I was talking to you, but many U.S. citizens, who inaccurately consider Mexicans to be a race, believe that "gringo" is a term applied to whites, despite the white nature of the Mexican ruling class and the non-application of the term to them. I was pointing out that it was nationalist and not racist.
[FONT=Verdana]The Anarchists never have claimed that liberty will bring perfection; they simply say that its results are vastly preferable to those that follow authority. -Benjamin Tucker[/FONT]
Hey, I'm not defending how the terms are used, just pointing it out. I agree that that the way the terms are used today leads to widespread confusion.
Well, make a visit to Texas sometimes (Ron Paul's home).
Yes, I see you're talking about the terms as they should actually be defined, not how they are actually used in everyday conversation. That's cool so long as you make it clear that's what you're doing.
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
Rand Paul, the racist prick, just got elected to the U.S. Senate.
money is to politics as fertilizer is to garden weeds.
I heard Rand Paul worships the Aqua Buddha!
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Give Explosive Situation the credit for that video^
I'll bet thousands of clueless Christians voted for this douchebag, only because he wants to ban abortion.
Careful what you wish for, coneheads...
money is to politics as fertilizer is to garden weeds.
I actually agree with this conclusion, since from what I've read I really do not get the impression that his support of the "right" to discriminate in public places stems from his own essentialist views on other groups, but rather from his essentialist view on economic "liberty".
This is an important point. It really shows how the potential practice of lassez faire and the ideology of "economic liberty" is, at best completely impotent when it comes to issues of racial domination/oppression (as well as gender and sexual orientation oppression), and at worst - completely uninterested. But such is capitalism, with its social relations, taken to its "logical" consequences.
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“The possibility of securing for every member of society, by means of socialized production, an existence not only fully sufficient materially, and becoming day by day more full, but an existence guaranteeing to all the free development and exercise of their physical and mental faculties – this possibility is now for the first time here, but it is here.” Friedrich Engels
"The proletariat is its struggle; and its struggles have to this day not led it beyond class society, but deeper into it." Friends of the Classless Society
"Your life is survived by your deeds" - Steve von Till
You can argue all you want about whether Paul is, or is not, racist. But it is a no-brainer that
(A) legalized discrimination is, or would be, a racist doctrine, and even more important:
(B) Such a policy enables the racist business-owner to freely discriminate. Therefore, whether
or not Paul himself is racist is not the real issue here; the issue is whether we enable private
"lunch-counter racists" to ply their filthy, evil ideology upon the innocent public. I say NOT
money is to politics as fertilizer is to garden weeds.
Rand Paul "There Are No Rich! There Are No Middle Class! There Are No Poor!"
In other words, we are beholden to our masters... (according to Rand Paul)
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money is to politics as fertilizer is to garden weeds.
What a terrible and irrelevant political ad. It's no surprise that this anti-regulation, pro-child labor candidate won the Senate seat.
"Above all, I defend the cause of humanity. My country is the world and my religion is to do good" - Thomas Paine
"The more I learn the less I know."
On the national TV news last week, I saw a report about how most of the Ads being run by democrats were attacks on the character of individual Republicans... I guess when your party is pushing mearly a softer version of what the tea-party wants, it's hard to criticize the Republicans based on the issues.
In California we elected a wacky liberal, liberal-hugging, moon-beam, liberal by the name of Jerry Brown. His first promise which was the headline in the far-left Pravda of San Fransicko, "The SF Chronicle": "Jerry Brown prepares for 'austere government'"
The good news is that Meg Whitman's campaign lost! The bad news is that her politics won!
Let them eat organic cake!
Thank the gods that Aaahnold Sweetsneeagah is probably back to making movies again (I DIG his films!!!)
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money is to politics as fertilizer is to garden weeds.
Who is Aqua Buddha?
"As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents." - George Orwell
“Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead.” - Kurt Vonnegut
"I am confident that, in the end, common sense and justice will prevail. I'm an optimist, brought up on the belief that if you wait to the end of the story, you get to see the good people live happily ever after." - Cat Stevens
Someone from one of Rand Paul's wet dreams?Who is Aqua Buddha?
money is to politics as fertilizer is to garden weeds.
