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    Default Kyrgyzstan Gov't Overthrown

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/wo...08bishkek.html

    Large-scale protests appear to have overthrown the government of Kyrgyzstan, an important American ally in Central Asia, after violence between riot police officers and opposition demonstrators on Thursday killed at least 17 people.
    The country’s president, Kurmanbek Bakiyev, fled the capital, Bishkek, on his plane, and the opposition declared that it was forming its own government.
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    Some 5,000 protesters seized Naryn's regional administration building and installed a new governor, opposition activist Adilet Eshenov said. At least four people were wounded in clashes, including the regional police chief, he said.
    Another 10,000 protesters stormed police headquarters Wednesday in Talas, where on Tuesday protesters had held the regional governor hostage in his office.




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    Obviously it can't be a revolution because there was no guerrilla war.
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    Its most likely just the previous oligarchs who in their turn were overthrown by the current (now previous) oligarchs in 2005...
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    Obviously it can't be a revolution because there was no guerrilla war.
    -Lol?


    Its most likely just the previous oligarchs who in their turn were overthrown by the current (now previous) oligarchs in 2005...
    So its just a cycle of bourgeois factions violently overthrowing each other?
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    Yes, lol.

    So its just a cycle of bourgeois factions violently overthrowing each other?
    Most likely. Unless there is an organized workers movement to seize power, power will almost certainly fall into the hands of another segment of the bourgeoisie.
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    So its just a cycle of bourgeois factions violently overthrowing each other?
    I don't think so.... Kyrgyzstan is a fairly poor country.It could very well be the proletarian demanding an end to corruption in their government. I'm not sure. They just say "anti-government" and ignore other facts about the protesters. All I know is that many governments in Central Asia are quite corrupt.

    It may not be a revolution just yet.... But it could be the overture to a full blown coup. Of course, these protests happen in many countries across the world, often with no avail.... But these guys look.... Armed.

    Most likely. Unless there is an organized workers movement to seize power, power will almost certainly fall into the hands of another segment of the bourgeoisie.
    Well the story is pretty sketchy on who was the front behind the riot. So it's not very certain. For all we know, it could be some Islamist movement of workers!
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    i didn't say this was a revolution for the reason that there was not a single mention of workers' organizations or anything.


    also, it appears the opposition(currently in power) has a blue party flag.
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    i didn't say this was a revolution for the reason that there was not a single mention of workers' organizations or anything.
    I know, it was actually a swipe at certain Maoist comrades.
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    I don't think so.... Kyrgyzstan is a fairly poor country.It could very well be the proletarian demanding an end to corruption in their government. I'm not sure. They just say "anti-government" and ignore other facts about the protesters. All I know is that many governments in Central Asia are quite corrupt.

    It may not be a revolution just yet.... But it could be the overture to a full blown coup. Of course, these protests happen in many countries across the world, often with no avail.... But these guys look.... Armed.



    Well the story is pretty sketchy on who was the front behind the riot. So it's not very certain. For all we know, it could be some Islamist movement of workers!
    apparently, from the articles ive read, a lot of the weapons were taken from police(like in thailand right now) and you can see 2 hands going for that cop's rocket launcher.
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    I know, it was actually a swipe at certain Maoist comrades.
    hahaha i was thinking you were making a guevara joke. either way, both are guerrilla oriented.
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    This doesn't look like it has any broader political implications right now, as these protesters don't seem ideologically organized enough to actually change things. I'm guessing another oligarch will take power sooner or later.
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    Why does a cop have a rocket launcher?
    because Kyrgyz cops dont fuck around?

    heres the caption from the picture's source

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    Protesters try to take a rocket propelled grenade (RPG) from a riot policeman during clashes in Bishkek April 7, 2010. Dozens of people were killed and hundreds injured in clashes between riot police and opposition protesters in the capital of Kyrgyzstan. (Vladimir Pirogov/Reuters)
    its probably only for riot purposes, you know, when protesters show up in armored vehicles.
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    The best that could come out of this is that the new government stops sucking at the US teat (or something rather more vulgar for that matter), but even then I'm sceptical.

    Still, let's hope this improves conditions for our Kyrgyz comrades.
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    apparently, from the articles ive read, a lot of the weapons were taken from police(like in thailand right now) and you can see 2 hands going for that cop's rocket launcher.
    Not sure why, but that just made me lol.

    The blue flag could mean several things. It could mean national unity or something. Very little is known about which opposition parties are involved in this. I know that Shamil Murat was a leader of one of them. There was no report of the protesters stealing weapons from police, although those guys holding guns don't look like police....

    But the current president of Kyrgyzstan is corrupt, brutal, and oppressive. The only reason we don't hear about him much is that he serves the USA. He's a puppet. Like Saddam Hussein was. Let's hope the coup is successful.
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    Either way, there's not much of a point to keep talking about this until more information is released on alternative sources, NOT mainstream media. Because if we continue this discussion right now, we may fix our minds to oppose these people when they may be our allies. All I can say right now is congrats to the people of Kyrgyzstan & to now bring a better world for your people.

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    lets wait and see
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    + YouTube Video
    ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

    Look at the cop crawling on all four.
    What sounds like white noise on that video is actual the cops firing desperately in the air to disperse the crowd.
    + YouTube Video
    ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

    Nice to see the police take a punch from the people their supposed to beat up.
    Though its sick to see the police firing real ammunition on the crowd, killing dozen's of people.
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    More pictures. Some are quite amazing.

    This is a very violent event.
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