There is an excelent web site dedicated to research on Far right wing Militia Groups in the United States. The site is mearly a tool for research, but has tons of info.
http://www.militia-watchdog.org/
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What the fuck is with the outburst of Nazi boneheads lately? Is the world getting more conservative or something. Some of the very first hate crimes because of race that were commited in scandanavian countrys such as Finland and Norway were commited by those little brats. The skinhead movement used to be one of peacefull integrated rebellion and pride, now because of the media depicting skinheads as neo-nazis and more of these little fucks apearing all over the world its just a bunch of bigoted terrorism bullshit. Im not a skinhead but I am very much aware that true skinheads are completely against racism and these racist fucks are just a product of "skinheads" that had no clue about the true skinhead culture being recruited by the British National Front. Its bad enougph that their right-wing fucks but racism is completely out of reach of any reason, there are even some Fascists that are against racism. Franco and Hirohito actually provided political asylums for Jews who were running away from Hitler in WW2. All I have to say is that those ignorant bastards all deserve a serious beating.
La revolucion no entra por el culo.
There is an excelent web site dedicated to research on Far right wing Militia Groups in the United States. The site is mearly a tool for research, but has tons of info.
http://www.militia-watchdog.org/
In Solidarity,
RC
i got some nazis in my school, they are so much fun to fuck with, they call me commie and keep making fun of me, when they do that i just point at them and tell everyone that thet they are nazis, ever since then they tried to keep a low profile in school.
i date someone who was into "white pride" although i wouldn't have called this person a racist. the problem, from their point of view (please keep in mind that this is NOT how i feel per se) is that, for examples, blacks in the US call themselves african americans and are proud of their upbringing, yet whites, ie. from england etc can't be proud of theirs?
and i agree that the idea of skinheads has been perverted. the same goes for the idea of punks.
I AM THE PERFECT ME!
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Hey,
the same happens with me.
The girl that sits front of
me in the school is a nazi.
I call her Hitler
and she calls me Che.
But what can you do for
nazis in your school ?
What I do is making fun of her
on debates, and proving how
silly she thinks.
for the love of love
a girl thats a nazi thats stupid. girls are not even smart enough to tthink, and shoyld stay home. be humble to her husband...
according to nazi(fascist) theory
respect equality liberation imagine
There is a section of a town here on Long Island (New York) that consists of all Germans. During the rise of the Natzi party just before U.S. entered the war... everyone in that community was a member of the "Bund" which was a pro Natzi group. They used to march up the street with Natzi uniforms and flags. Today the people who live there are all decendents of them... and are all still pro Natzi... During the thirties one street was called "Aldof Hitler Lane" now has a diffrent name... but people living there call it by the old name.
In Solidarity,
RC
essentially that's all you can do, however, most of the time they aren't thinking through the same logic as yourself. i find that nazis and racists (my father being the latter) are not going to change without a HUGE fight. trying to understand them and learn where they are coming from is essential, however to a good argument.
I AM THE PERFECT ME!
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Oh..
not all the rights think the same
as not all the lefts think the same.
Take as an exemple you and me.
Don't generalise
And appart from this
most of the rights I know
don't even know the basics
of their theory.
That's what makes me sick ..
for the love of love
ironically i was just on another bb and someone said the same thing about lefts, especially communists. (not saying that i disagree) i just think there are a lot of ignorant people that attach themselves to the left or the right because of the people they are surrounded by
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heh ..
Yes nickademus.
I think you 're right.
for the love of love
I see your point nickademus, but the reason that people cant have "white pride" is exactly because of dumb supremacists like them that chant out "white pride" when what they really mean is "white POWER", and so now white pride is associated with hate groups that arent "pro-white" as they say they are but rather anti-black, anti-semite, etc. Most Nazis dont actually know jack shit about the politics of the nazi campaign or about history, they are just a bunch of dumb racist fucks that embrace Nazism for the sake of being bigoted assholes.
La revolucion no entra por el culo.
i think another reason (not that i agree with this necissarily) people can't say white-pride in the same way that blacks for example say black-pride is because whites didn't have to go through the problems that blacks went through. i think that one of the reasons black people started saying black-pride is to help lift themselves out of the mentality that was forced on them from the time of slavery all the way to even today.
an interesting book on the subject (even though it's not very well written) is "black like me" by john howard griffin. its about the true story of a white reporter who disguises himself as a black man and goes to the south to investigate the psyche of both the black and white man.
\"One murder makes a villain...millions a hero. Numbers sanctify, my friend.\" -Charlie Chaplin
there seems to be the same problem with communism/marxism etc. because of the bad association it has had in the past with that name it is hard to use these exact words. everyone tries to disassociate themselves from those radicals. i'm relatively white, as would be said, and i'm proud of my heritage, that doesn't make me a racist. when people advocate being proud of their white heritage it doesn't necessarily mean they are racists
I AM THE PERFECT ME!
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hey everyone look, drunktank agreed with one of us (just kidding drunktank, i don't hate you at all)
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Hey RedCeltic the stuff you wrote about the Germans in NewYork is really scary to hear for me as a German. I was not aware that this kind of German Nazi culture still exists in the US. This is hardly known in Germany. So far I thougt that the Germans are pretty assimilated into the common US white trash culture or still have a kitchy Bavarian "lederhosen-culture".
Would you say that this Germans are dangerous in some way? Are they violent? Or are they just a tiny bunch of idiots?
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Malte, what I know of them is that they where a very large group before the war and very openly pro Germany and pro Natzi... while they still live in the same area... many speaking German... it is not very clear how they politicly ally themselves...
It is true that for the most part the United States is quite assimalated... however New York seems to have parts that are strictly... or mostly one ethnic group.
I did have a chance to talk to someone who grew up in the place and said that while to outsiders it seems like a nice small peaceful community... the people only sell the homes to other Germans of the same Bund background. I don't know anything of secret meeting or anything stupid like that... but he said that most there are secretly pro Natzi and proud of their Bund organisation of the past.
For the most part in New York Germans have mixed into Irish and Italian sections... and here in suburban distrects it is even more intergrated. However there are still section that have kept mostly to one ethnic group... mostly Italians and Jews and not so much Germans and Irish...
In Solidarity,
RC
Malte, I also should add that I think these are just normal people who may just be proud something they consider cultural... after all the Bund society was about being proud to be German, and today... if it is true that they are pro Natzi are in no way open about it.. nor do I think they are dangerous.....
Also the road I mentined 'Aldolf Hiter' Is today called Middle Island Road... and I faild to mention that it runs through a town called Middle Island and Yampank...It is only part of Yampank that these people live.... I heard about the name because a few years ago a woman in Middle Island complained that the power company was sending her mail that called her street 'Aldolf Hitler' ... as it turns out the power company didn't regester the change of the street name in the 40's... so as it turns out... everyone who lived on that street where getting mail from the power company for 50 years or so without complaining that the name of the street was not 'Aldolf Hitler'. I latter heard that it was that section (Zigfried I think it's called) that had it named Aldolf Hitler and had still jokingly called it that.
In Solidarity,
RC
hmm... so i guess i had the wrong idea about skinheads.. after all my only path way to that culture is thru the media.. and, well, u know.... well we're learning new stuff here this is sweet...
\"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don’t believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn’t want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn’t know how
I think these individuals are dangerous, and there can be two aprotches to them
1- a rectorical one where u try to explain the folishness of right wing ideals , theory and practice
2- or fighting them, i mean in the streat, in wars, in debates, etc...
eatch aprotch has its, for example the adolf hitler street RedCeltic speaks of, there u should use the frist aprotch, promote debates and positive german nationalism
now a nazi skin head organization, and i know there are some in the US should be atacked in the night burnt down there member beat unconsies and if serious resistence is ofered they should be shoot
i think its a serious mistake to ignore these movements.
