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    he killed loads of people apparently- why was this?
    people say he was as bad as hitler but came out better-this cant be right can it?
    how did he come to power- did lenin choose him?
    he wanted to concentrate on soviet union, and trotsky wanted wordwide revolution- is that what a trotskyite is?
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    he was afrraid that some one would take over power

    he was worse then hitler ( killed millions and fucked up communism( stalinism=fascism)

    lenin choose trotsky but evil was smarter as always

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    It's bad to kill your enemies,
    it's worse to kill your comrades.

    No, he is not trotskyite.

    He didn't want to take the whole world.
    If he wanted, he could have done it,
    by the end of ww2
    as he had enough power.

    He was just interested to create
    a protection zone around USSR.
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    I know your talking about Joseph Stalin and not Leon Trotskey yet I can't help but voice my vew of why I think Trotskey was killed. Someone had said to me onece that the first rule in a revolution is that after the revolutiion wins you kill off the revolutiionaries. In that sence I think that Leon Trotskey was a true revolutionarian that wanted to see the Russian revolution as a steppiing stone for global revolutiion and it made him dangerous.

    I think that the Russian revolutiion started out good, truly communist and truly for the people. Yet was corupted by power mongers like Stalin and those who followed.

    etched in the minds of people today are the crimes against humanity commited by Stalin's men, and USSR leaders like Cruschev banging his shoe on his desk at the UN. These are the images that people think of when communism is mentoned, yet they are a far distant shadow of the revolution that gave them power.
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    Stalin was a good man. He helped Soviet economy boom. If it wasn't for comrade Stalin then we communists wouldn't have an example to show us no to go to far. If it wasn't for Stalin we wouldn't know how to build a communist society. Because of Stalin we now know what not to do. When we set up our own communist society one day we'll go "How do we want to run our communist government?" And someone else will say "Not like Stalin's!" And that is how Stalin helped communism
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    drunktank- i know he wasnt a trotskyite, but i was wondering if a trotskyite wants worldwide revolution- like lionel jospin was (the french PM- a troskyite when he was younger)
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    TROTSKYISM: One of the two main branches of Leninism; developed upon by Leon Trotsky, co-leader of the Russian Revolution and founder of the Red Army. Trotskyists oppose strongly the ideology of Stalinism and its related ideologies. One of the main reasons for this is that Trotsky believed that, in order for socialism to work, the entire world must be united in a single socialist economy, overthrowing the reigns of capitalism completely. This was directly opposed by Stalin's policy of isolationism ("socialism in one country"). Rather than following the Stalinist and Leninist focus on a dictatorship, Trotskyists emphasize more democratic centralism and a "workers' democracy". While supported a one-party system, he believed in complete freedom of speech, thereby allowing this one party to be changed according to the will of the people. Trotskyists are strongly revolutionary and opposed to reform socialism; in order to overthrow capitalism, they believe, the government structure of capitalism must be overthrown, as well. Trotskyists feel that at the time that Joseph Stalin took power in Russia, a counter-revolution was in progress, whereby Stalin's men were working to undo the positive changes that had occurred as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution. They label Stalinist countries as "degenerated" or "deformed workers' states", where a bureaucratic clique has developed. They believe a second revolution of the working class is necessary to overthrow these bureaucrats. While being strictly anti-Stalinist, Trotskyists are resolutely opposed to US intervention in Stalinist states. They believe that while Stalinists are a menace to real socialism, US imperialism is a much greater one. (A group of Trotskyists who believed that the Soviet Union was as bad -- or worse -- than the United States broke with Trotsky and formed the group known as Shachtmanites.) Today, there are many groups in America that consider themselves Trotskyist, though they usually have viewpoints which differ from Trotsky's. Traditionally, the chief Trotskyist party of the US had been the Socialist Workers Party, but this group shifted to an ideology of Castroism in the 1980's. Today, the most accurately labeled Trotskyist group is Socialist Action. There are other groups which include the Spartacist League, Revolutionary Workers League, Freedom Socialist Party, and Socialist Alternative.
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    Quote: from Guest on 10:27 am on July 29, 2001
    Stalin was a good man. He helped Soviet economy boom. If it wasn't for comrade Stalin then we communists wouldn't have an example to show us no to go to far. If it wasn't for Stalin we wouldn't know how to build a communist society. Because of Stalin we now know what not to do. When we set up our own communist society one day we'll go "How do we want to run our communist government?" And someone else will say "Not like Stalin's!" And that is how Stalin helped communism
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