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    A very simple answer to this is male's want to be strong (well that is what we are told). Male's fight when they get angry, male's fight when they want something. It's not just Humans, male animal show themselves as strong. To gain power and to try and get a mate.

    Many people say we are better than the animal's, we are at most thing's but at acting like male's we are not. We need to be better than everyone else at whatever we are doing be it sport, drinking games, looks etc (don't start about how long your dick is crap).

    We are told homosexual males aren't strong and powerful, we are told they are big girl's. I hear it all the time (mostly at school) people calling one another "gay". I have never hear woman doing this. The other thing you hear a lot from male's is "I fucked your mum" or "I'm your dad". Again I have
    never heard woman saying "I'm your mum" or "I fucked your dad". In short males what to be the big dog and most woman don't (well in different ways than male's).

    I think this is the key thing, gay men may get more open hostility, but it's a lot easier for people to ignore or dismiss female homosexuality by thinking, well woman are more likely to hug and kiss each other, and it's acceptable for a woman to find another woman attractive, therefore female homosexuality is just two women who haven't found men they like yet making the best of it (and I guess why you find a lot more men willing to try to turn
    lesbians than you do women trying to turn gay men.)
    I agree, I don't think a song like "I kissed a man and I liked it" would get to number one it the chart. More people would see it as weird even if it was only
    a wee joke. It all go's back to male's are hard and woman are not.

    I think EVERYONE has bisexual tendencies. Men are just less likely to accept it. I think Pansexuality is natural and the whole idea of straight being the normal orientation is more just brought on by religion and social morals.
    I agree, male's will push these tendencies down more than woman will (in most cases). Also many people (male and female) that totally disagree to this and force these tendencies far down are in many cases worried they are gay and do everything to cover this fact up.
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    There are a few countries where male homosexuality is illegal and female is not.

    Zambia
    Zimbabwe
    Swaziland
    Grenada
    Jamaica
    Uzbekistan
    Palestinian Territory of Gaza
    Singapore
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    i don't know if the same counts for america , but in europe people tend to be more open to female homosexuality than to male homosexuals. why is this? possible theories are, i think, that the media portrayed lesbians as "hot" and gays as "sissies", or that patriarchy makes it seem as if lesbians are "upgraded" and men don't (i do not say that i believe these theories, but i wan't to give you something to work with). any ideas?
    Are you asking if they are more open towards female relationships?
    Homosexuality is more than just sex or its portrayal by the pornography industry.
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    It's not really the case that homophobes have no problem with lesbian sex. They might find the idealised male fantasy porn version of lesbianism appeal but that's because the whole thing is built up around male sexuality and, in all these fantasies the women are "available" to the man; either he gets to join in or they are putting on a show to titillate. The realisation that women's sexuality exists seperate to their desires, that women have a sexual apetite and it's got fuck all to do with their cocks, enrages your average homophobe. That's why they come out with ridiculously arbitrary defenitions of "real sex"; definitions that conviently require a man.
    This. In mass culture lesbians are constantly the subject of male fantasies. Even if overt participation is not allowed, men are openly encouraged in erotic lesbian pornography to take pleasure out of the situation from afar. With few exceptions, lesbian pornography appears to be oriented around the consumption of male tastes and not that of actual lesbians, although such ladies may come across it as an unintentional consequence. "Dike" has also become a cleaving tool for separating "hot lesbians" entertaining men and "real lesbians."

    I can't comment too much on why certain nations have deemed male homosexuality more reprehensible, but in addition to the suggestion that lesbianism has been viewed as impossible in some historical circles, it may also be true that a prevalence of polygamy centered around one man and multiple wives leads to such cultural confusions.
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    And I'd also add that, in my view, gay culture may be partially responsible for these attitudes. I don't see why a sexuality should have a culture. A person should be able to be whatever sexuality they want without being associated with a particular lifestyle. Maybe someone can fill me in on the reasoning behind the whole thing? For instance, "coming out." Why is sexuality anyone's business? And pride parades? People don't choose their sexuality is the message, and then they are proud of it later. Why be proud of something you didn't choose or accomplish yourself?

    The gay rights movement is something that interests me, but I don't understand it. I like black coats and smashing things. Those movements I understand.
    As a short answer because I don't want to derail the thread:

    Things such as sexuality gain importance (in the same way things like gender and race do) because of the structural oppression that comes to constitute it. Why should someone skin color matter any more than hair color? Because we become segregated and oppressed on a racial basis. And that creates the necessity of a movement to end the oppression.

    Though, I would criticize the reformist of the gay movement and their inability to recognize some of the 'deeper' kinds of oppression (specifically the focus around things such as marriage over anything else)
    Although that is not to say that this criticism extends to everything in the gay movement.

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