G8 Summit

[Dionysian]

News of the G8 summit beginning July 20-22 in Genoa between the 8 warmongering nations, and the wanton rapacious IMF, WB & WTO will be fully covered without censorship at Indymedia.org and corporatewatch.org

[myrmidon of Che]

I hope the demonstrators will break through the police barricades and assault the world leaders for pimping their countries to the multi-national corporations. These
fat, filthy honchos who are the so-called "leaders" of the free world would lick the corporations' assholes even if they fart and shit on their faces. Did you see George Bush the other night on the news? He said that those who protest free trade are no friends of the poor.
The amount of rapacity and cruelty that gives rise to corporations such as the United Fruit Company, Exxon, Mobile and the like is enough to make a revolutionary out of a staunch pacifist.

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George Bush and the Democrats are wastrels.

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[Chameleon102]

The way to end violence and oppression is not by creating more.

I'll admit, though, something is coming. Something drastic....

[Dionysian]

one protester reported dead in Genoa by the hands of riot police on Day One of the G-8 Summit.

[myrmidon of Che]

Yes, a protester was felled by the atrocious forces of capitalism/globalism. His death will be avenged and his funeral dirge will be sung with the staccato singing of the machine guns.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010720...l/mdf26681.html

[patriot21]

The G8 summit saw what it could do, bring protesters from different sectors, Left-wingers, Anarchists etc.. I expect more protests whenever conferences like these occur and who have nothing to talk to but senseless Globalization shit. More PROTESTS !!!!

[drunktank]

What did the riots achieve ?
They showed their teeth but
They destroyed a city.

If they burnt your car, what would you do?

It's good to react to globalisation but you should
start changing the world from yourself and your family.

[army of 12 monkeys]

No!!!! drunktank!!!!! We got stronger. We learned some good lessons, comerade. Fear not. If fear thou hast in thy heart, pray brother, banish it forthwith.

On the whole, the majority of the demonstrators were protesting peacefully. A growing faction, however; which grows larger at every new summit, is the vanguard of the underground movement. They will help usher in the golden age. even if it must cost tens of thousands of lackeys.

[patriot21]

A special thanks to the protesters during the G8 summit and I offer my sympathy to the protester shot by the police.

[Guest]

I feel sympathy for the man who lost his life, and I feel sympathy for his family, and I feel sympathy for the man who shot him. But I do not think that the protestor who was shot was wronged in any way. He was shot assulting a police jeep. He was feet away from hurling a fire extinguisher into a police officers face. He needed to be shot. He preached about peaceful protest but could not live by his teachings.

Violence should never be nessesary, but unfortunately it sometimes is, this time however that protestor should not have been acting like such. It does not "make us stronger" by showing we can ruthless and destroy honest shopkeepers stores in the name of something just. "I don't like what the government is doing so I will smash my neighbor's things" that is a very ignorant point of view.

If you want to do something other then just peacefully protest, then BOYCOTT. Boycott Nike, Guess, and all other corporate giants who exploit the poor. Don't just boycott though, send letters explaining why you are boycotting.

Violence is just giving all of us a bad name, we preach peace then go out on destructive rampages? Stupid.

-Jaco

[RedCeltic]

I am constantly angered by how the press depicts the protesters. For the most part they are called anarchists. Even though Religious groups, Unions, Greens, Etc.. stand shoulder to Shoulder with Socialists,Communists,and Anarchists. Sometimes they mention the protesters that arn't rioting or storming the barricades. However, I think that without the more violent protesters we would hear very little about the meeting at all. I think most Americans have the wrong idea about Anarchy... as well as Socialism and Communism. (I'm a Socialist not an Anarchist mind you) I think when the media lables the protesters an Anarchist mob... they assume that those protesting are just a bunch of crazies, confused school kids, etc... and don't realize that there are people who are serious and convicted to a cause. Not just our more radical ideas of ending capitalism, but many mainstreem activists who demonstrate through peaceful means, and are silenced by the loud riotus mob, and labled "Anarchists." It remides me of how "GreenPeace" did much to try to fight for the earth... but are only remembered by Americans as crazy people who chain themselves to things.

But the good thing of all the media atention is that at least once in awile someone mentions that there are Socialists and Communists and have even seen Che's face on a flag along with one of Mao. So if even a few people see that and realize Socialism isn't dead but on the rise... then maybe we've acomplished something (a very very small victory) in destroying a very old and beutiful Italian City.

[pce]

I absolutely agree with the Guest poster above. the violent protesters did nothing but tarnish the face of socialists around the world. violence is not always the best way. just because guevara preached armed revolt in the sixties, it doesn't mean armed revolt is always the best way... with peaceful protests, not only would they have accomplished more, but they wouldn't allow the media to categorize them as confused "rebels without a cause." furthermore, if there weren't so many rumors of violence, the protesters would have probably been allowed closer to the BigHeads and as a result would have had a greater impact on them as well.

I also noticed that on a few occasions people have posted speeches or transcripts from Ralph Nader...Now I ask you, who has a greater influence on the BigHeads, Nader or the violent protesters on the streets. Nadar probably represents most, if not all, of the views of the protesters, yet he can accomplish more in the long run than 100 violent protesters because he is viewed as a respectable person in the eye of the world while the protesters who have the same views as him are represented as savages. i'm not saying everyone should support Nader, I only use him as an example of how peaceful protest accomplishes more.

I know I'm talking too much now, so I'll stop.

[Guest]

The problem as I see it is that the police were obviously armed with real bullets. They should not have been anywhere near the summit protesters. We all cried out about the protest in Quebec city because rubber bullets and tear gas were used against everyone, including peaceful protesters. Here, real bullets were supplied to the police officers. How could they be certain that they protesters they would be harassing would in fact be violent. One couldn't tell. There is a distinct lack of basic human rights that occurred in Genoa, more so than in Seattle or Quebec City.

To the person who commented that freedom of speech doesn't feed your family, it may some day. Were you one of the people being exploited and driven into poverty by (for example) NAFTA and you protested against that treaty eventually bringing that treaty to an end, you may have done just what you say you cannot do.

[army of 12 monkeys]

The corporate cocksucking sodomigarchs will sell our birthright for a saucer of cold porridge. And some us in the movement will stand idly by with hardly even a yawn while they rape our freedoms. Let there be no mistake the young man who died died heroicly. If we all had the "cojones" that he had our problems would be over. Remember when Che was asked during his tour of Latin America----What it took for a revolution to be successful in Latin America---what his answer was? "Balls!"

[Edelweiss]

From Indymedia Italy:
"Genoa, July 21st 2001,
by participants of the Black Block
We are speaking out for a part of the black block.

We do not want to submit helplessly into the politics of the powerful. We have come to enter militantly the red zone and tostop the g8 meeting.

Yesterday the police acted brutally against the protesters. Protesters were beaten up, were attacked with tear gas and
shock bullets, they were imprisoned and tortured. The police brutality culminated in the murder of one protester.

In the published opinion the black block was made responsible for the whole violence.

Day by day, the capitalist world order produces a diversity of violence. Poverty, hunger, expilsion, exclusion, the death ofmillions of people and the destruction of living spaces is part fo their policy. This is exactly what we reject.

Smashed windows of banks and multinational companies are symbolic actions. Nevertheless we do not agree with the
destruction and looting of small shops and cars. This is not our policy.

However, we also do not let us be divided. To divide resistance is a usual way to weaken resistance. We appreciate andcount on solidaric criticism."

[Markxs]

well there is a time for violent and a time for peacefull rev.

when the man besides you got hit with a stick on his head and got dragged away by his ears over stones by the police. i would get that rock or whatever and hit the police men....

violence is the last way. but think of che would the cuban rev. succeed without the guns of the guerilla's?

[filimarxist]

dammit, all this drunktank prick has ever done is criticize every activist action taken by our comrades, he even asked why every "bastard" (in refernce to carlos guiliani) who is unjustly shot by a cop becomes a hero, and he says that christianity is the same as communism only better, despite the fact that religion represses scientific progress and human nature such as sex and violence (actually,they reserve violence for rival religions). It seems to me that drunktank is only here to slander our leftist beliefs and spread religous right-wing propaganda and i suggest that we ban him from this site.

[pce]

whoah filimarxist! no one should be banned from this site. ever one should have a say even a religious right-wing propagandist (which i don't think drunktank is). we're the ones who want freedom of speech so lets not be hypocrits ey?

[RedCeltic]

Worker's World Party News on G 8


200,000 DEFY G-8 AFTER KILLING

As images of the martyred protester flashed around the
world, the G-8 scrambled to justify the killing. A statement
issued by the conference expressed "sorrow and regret" but
went on to blame protesters for the violence.

Italian Interior Minister Claudio Scajola claimed the cop,
who has not been named, shot Giuliani "in self defense." He
tried to smear the dead protester, a squatter, as being
"homeless and having a criminal record."

Eyewitnesses told a different story. The paramilitary police
were driving their van aggressively through the plaza, they
said, threatening protesters' lives. Several demonstrators,
including Carlo Giuliani, grabbed rocks, cobblestones and
fire extinguishers and tried to beat back the armored
vehicle.

Officials tried to strong-arm organizers to call off
Saturday's mass demonstration to "Drop the Debt" of poor
nations to imperialist banks. Some frightened NGOs and
moderate groups pulled out, joined the ruling-class chorus
and denounced "violent protesters." But most refused to be
cowed. Instead they called on the G-8 to cancel the
remainder of its summit.

On July 21, between 150,000 and 200,000 people filled
Genoa's streets, many of them Genoese and other Italian
workers enraged by the activist's death. Labor union banners
and the red flags of the Italian Refoundation Communist
Party flew everywhere. Many activists bore scars and
bandages from the previous day's battle.

Street battles continued throughout the day. Ninety-three
people were reported wounded Saturday and police arrested 36
on the march. (CNN.com, July 21)

P
While differing on whether to approve the Kyoto accord on
global warming-at the behest of Big Oil, Bush is determined
to torpedo it-the imperialist leaders all agreed on the fine
art of the Big Lie: if you tell an outrageous lie enough
times, people will believe you.

Hence, the G-8 promote such lies as: globalization helps the
poor; the Carabinieri fired their weapons, injuring scores
of unarmed people, "in self defense"; and protesters "hurt
poor nations."

Tanzania Trade Minister Idi Simba, speaking at a meeting of
leaders of the world's 49 poorest countries in Zanzibar the
same weekend, disagreed. "The system as it is now is not
fair to us and those fellows in the streets are telling that
story." (BBC Online, July 22)

Despite the continual denunciations leveled at the protests
by G-8 leaders, the course of their summit showed the
enormous influence the anti-globalization movement has.

For the first time, Bush, Blair & Co. were forced to open
their G-8 club to representatives of several poor countries
and listen to their demands for debt relief and development.

As one protester, an electrical utility worker named Marina,
told the New York Times: "I don't think they would have done
so had it not been for the pressure from the street."

Before the summit Bush had even floated the idea of
converting half of all future loans to developing countries
into grants that would not have to be repaid. But no action
was taken. And in fact everyone knows these countries cannot
pay anything more to the loan sharks, anyway. Their
economies have been totally bankrupted by the imperialist
banks and corporations.

A $1.2 billion fund to fight AIDS and other diseases in
Africa-heralded as the summit's main achievement for the
poor-had already been announced months earlier.

"It is not enough," UN Secretary General Kofi Annan told
them, explaining that $7 billion to $10 billion per year is
needed to fight AIDS in Africa.

No, the G-8 summit will not be remembered for aiding the
poor. It will be remembered as a declaration of war by the
capitalist class against the anti-globalization movement.

How will the movement respond? Can the diverse militant
groups unite around a common strategy of attack and defense?
Can they build on the solidarity shown by the European
working-class movement and avoid being isolated as the
capitalist state moves to repress them?

These are some of the challenges facing the anti-capitalist
movement after Genoa.

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[filimarxist]

a lot of people seem to criticize protests against the likes of the wto, imf and so forth for being too violent, all they seem to do is cause riots; what these people don't realize is that this violence is the result of the conflict brought on by the presence o f police force, others point out that the riots aren't effective in preventing meetings like G8, they are obviously wrong, after what happened in cities like seattle and washington d.c. i doubt that there is a city in the u.s. that is willing to host a summit concerning globaliztion.