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    Weed and anti-gravity.
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    No alienation in your personal relationships. Those lucky fuckers won't have to deal with that.
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    you're such an awful bore, poor dear
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    HURR HURR HURR

    You're a wit-vacuum.
    Sciences & Environment rocks my bedroom.

    [FONT=Arial]Say what you mean and say it mean...[/FONT]

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    They smoke a lot of weed in California.
    And do an awful lot of time for it.

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]California Reports Record Percentage of Drug Prisoners: One in Eight Imprisoned for Simple Possession of Drugs [/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica] 10/22/99

    [/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]SACRAMENTO: The number of drug prisoners has mounted to new all-time highs in California, according to the latest statistics from the Department of Corrections. As of June 1999, the state prison system held 45,874 drug offenders, a record 28.3% of the prison population. At the same time, a record 12.2% of prisoners -- 19,743 in all -- were being held for simple possession (not sales) of illegal drugs.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
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    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Included are 1,903 marijuana prisoners (principally for sales and cultivation, since possession is a misdemeanor) -- up 12% since the passage of California's medical marijuana initiative, Prop. 215, and nearly twenty times the level of twenty years ago.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Not included in these figures are drug prisoners held in county jails and federal prisons.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Altogether, the number of drug prisoners in California has exploded over fivefold since 1986 while their proportion in the prison population has doubled; yet illegal drug usage has remained more or less constant over the same period.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Data for DPFCA's analysis comes from the California Department of Corrections annual publication, "Characteristics of Population in California State Prisons by Institution."[/FONT]

    hxxp://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/113/drugprisoners.shtml

    California is the land of Berkeley, but it's also the land of a massive prison-industrial complex. And "Free Republic."

    Edit: Ouch, I posted the wrong article; I'd meant to post an article I'd seen from '09, not '99! Still, the War on Drugs continues in CA. It's good that at least mere possession of non-prescription pot is just a misdemeanor when it could be a felony. But it shouldn't be illegal at all, from any angle, period. It's a joke that this is even considered a controversial position in much of society.
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    Welcome Sov, good point. I agree with you, the war on drugs needs to end along with the rest of the justifications for prison system particularly in the US, particularly in California.

    But I was merely being flippant in my response to "smoking pot whenever you'd like".

    Also as a Oakland resident, I have to add that Berkeley isn't even the "land of Berkeley" or the "People's Republic of Berkeley" as right-wingers put it. Unless you are a student, Berkeley, once a working class town that elected a socialist mayor in the early 20th century, is now a playground for life-stylist yuppies.
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    HUMMERS FOR ALL!



    (I'm just kidding -- there's nothing utopian about that.)
    I think you mention hummers in like, every other post you have ever made in your life.
    "How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"
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    My utopian dream: Not being surrounded by a mess of fugly, multi-colored advertisements 24/7. Seriously, modern capitalist architecture is ugly as fuck and needs to die.

    To elaborate, thanks to the profit motive, most buildings these days are prefabricated blocky structures with little ventilation, making them a breeding ground for bacteria. Since the logic of imperialist capitalism dictates that we sometimes must diminish the quality and durability of our products in order to keep people spending, the tendency is for these buildings to be leveled and replaced with new, blocky, bacteria-infested buildings every couple of years.

    Plus, there's no uniform color scheme. Goddammit, every capitalist has to create their own logo, with a different font, and different choice of colors. It's disgusting what lengths they go to to give their commodities individuality, when I feel like my individuality, as a human, is denied. Disgusting, and ugly as sin.


    Also, I'd hope we get rid of all this stupid fucking social constructs that make it so difficult to meet people and fall in love. Seriously, it seems to me like everyone regards the most trivial friendly gestures as infringements on their personal space. It seems like our culture trains us to view everyone else as 'strangers' out to kill, rob, or rape you rather than fellow villagers/countrymen.
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    They smoke a lot of weed in California.
    well, they also smoke mad j's here too, but we don't do it whenever we please
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    I think you mention hummers in like, every other post you have ever made in your life.
    Damn right.
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    It seems like our culture trains us to view everyone else as 'strangers' out to kill, rob, or rape you rather than fellow villagers/countrymen.
    'Sigh' I know where you come from. My father is one of these over suspicious weirdos.
    "But there are many farmsteads here willing to house you for a modest fee!"
    "Do you have any idea what those individuals are ready to do?! We have a plenty of valuable goods on us and they have no company reputation to uphold!"
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    massive internationalist circle jerks spreading the whole world


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    HUMMERS FOR ALL!

    (I'm just kidding -- there's nothing utopian about that.)
    stupid
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    'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
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    When I was probably 12 or 13 I had this idea that there should be a daily artistic siesta, where in the middle of the day everyone would quit working and make art
    I think that fits the definition of "utopian pipe dream" quite well. Of course, deep down I still think it's a cool idea, even though it is a utopian pipe dream. But deep down, I'm also a little bit of a hippie (ask bcbm; he knows).
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    When I was probably 12 or 13 I had this idea that there should be a daily artistic siesta, where in the middle of the day everyone would quit working and make art
    I think that fits the definition of "utopian pipe dream" quite well. Of course, deep down I still think it's a cool idea, even though it is a utopian pipe dream. But deep down, I'm also a little bit of a hippie (ask bcbm; he knows).
    i think its a good idea, as long as i can use the siesta to just smoke opium and fuck with finger paints on an unethically comfortable day bed.

    but yeah, you're a total hippie.
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    When I was probably 12 or 13 I had this idea that there should be a daily artistic siesta, where in the middle of the day everyone would quit working and make art
    I think that fits the definition of "utopian pipe dream" quite well. Of course, deep down I still think it's a cool idea, even though it is a utopian pipe dream. But deep down, I'm also a little bit of a hippie (ask bcbm; he knows).
    I like your idea...

    I also like bcbm's idea of what he would do during artistic siesta.

    I've always wanted to one day try opium by rolling a blunt, put some of the opium in the blunt along with mj, and then when rolled dipp the blunt in hash "honey oil." If I can have this I will approve of and engage in (some form; I don't think I'm good at art) artistic siesta.
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