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    What would you call this political ideology? To note I do not subscribe to this ideology.

    Basically this ideology believes in a form of social democracy in economic matters but also in authoritarian meritocracy and militarism. Something like Singapore today or Bismarckian Germany actually.
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    What would you call this political ideology? To note I do not subscribe to this ideology.

    Basically this ideology believes in a form of social democracy in economic matters but also in authoritarian meritocracy and militarism. Something like Singapore today or Bismarckian Germany actually.

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    just conservative social democracy, there are more people like that in europe.
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    I agree with dany. It's not the nasty "kill all of the Jews" Nazism, but it's all cleaned up and businessy. The state is umbrella "corporation" and all the other corporations work to support it--and the state does what it could in the world arena to support its businesses and products.

    It's a planned centralized economy and unfortunately there's little room for democracy or any sort of freedom of expression because the goal of society is unified in the pursuit of a high standard of living (hopefully) for its people.

    It's all well and good if the dictator is benevolent but that may not always remain so and there are no checks and balances to insure a good leader will always be in charge.
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    I agree with dany. It's not the nasty "kill all of the Jews" Nazism, but it's all cleaned up and businessy. The state is umbrella "corporation" and all the other corporations work to support it--and the state does what it could in the world arena to support its businesses and products.

    It's a planned centralized economy and unfortunately there's little room for democracy or any sort of freedom of expression because the goal of society is unified in the pursuit of a high standard of living (hopefully) for its people.

    It's all well and good if the dictator is benevolent but that may not always remain so and there are no checks and balances to insure a good leader will always be in charge.
    Thats not social democracy in economic matters.
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    Authoritarian One Nation Conservativsm. Thats the actual official term for what you're dscribing in political philosophy. As advocated by authoritarian Conservatives of the likes found alot in mainland Europe, a tradition that never really took hold in the United Kingdom.


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    Pogue, how does it differ from Fascism?
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    This meaning exactly what?
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    What would you call this political ideology?

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    it's wordplay meant to demonstrate the ambiguous nature of language.
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    What would you call this political ideology?

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    it's wordplay meant to demonstrate the ambiguous nature of language.
    You have a point.
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    Authoritarian One Nation Conservativsm. Thats the actual official term for what you're dscribing in political philosophy. As advocated by authoritarian Conservatives of the likes found alot in mainland Europe, a tradition that never really took hold in the United Kingdom.
    Except for in the 19th century, for some reason, many workers don't like the idea so much of the aristocracy or ruling capitalist classes being benevolent philanthropists ... must be all that wage slavery
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    Pogue, how does it differ from Fascism?
    Well in political philosophy its different fromf ascism tot he extent to which it goes, but you have a point, its very, very close to fascism, and alot of the leaders defined as authoritarian conservatives are, in my opinion, fascist.


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    Well in political philosophy its different fromf ascism tot he extent to which it goes, but you have a point, its very, very close to fascism, and alot of the leaders defined as authoritarian conservatives are, in my opinion, fascist.
    OK, then is we get rid of the fiction that China is "Communist" doesn't this economic scenario look like what's going on in that country?

    Basically this ideology believes in a form of social democracy in economic matters but also in authoritarian meritocracy and militarism. Something like Singapore today or Bismarckian Germany actually.
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    OK, then is we get rid of the fiction that China is "Communist" doesn't this economic scenario look like what's going on in that country?
    I thought we got rid of that a long long time ago.
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    OK, then is we get rid of the fiction that China is "Communist" doesn't this economic scenario look like what's going on in that country?
    China is socially authoritarian and economically neo-liberal, with a state that is part of the neo-liberal apapratus as opposed to an external force which allows neo liberalism.


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    That's what I was thinking. Or maybe just Bismarkianism. Basically Bizmark's Germany used state power to modernize, industrialize and catch up to the other capitalist powers. As with Japan in the late 1800s and Russia under Stalin, this method allowed incredible industrial growth that allowed these countries to leapfrog over 100+ years worth of industrial development in England in a few decades. This is usually also done on the backs, and to the detriment, of the workers of course.
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    Its called Authoritarian Conservatvism in political philosophy, trust me.


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