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    Is there a name for such a conglomeration? If there is, could you tell me?
    When a capitalist comes up to you, he says; "may I sell you something?"

    When a fascist comes up to you, he says; "we all face problems, and I'm here to help!"

    When an anarchist comes up to you, he says; "yo."

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    the second word in that sentence negates the other three and vice-versa. They simply shouldn't be combined.
    "The essence of all slavery consists in taking the product of another's labor by force. It is immaterial whether this force be founded upon ownership of the slave or ownership of the money that he must get to live" -Leo Tolstoy

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    the second word in that sentence negates the other three and vice-versa. They simply shouldn't be combined.
    Not necissarily, as I am a christian, but it does not mean I base my poltical opinion around it. I am basically an Anarcho-Communist, but on a personal basis, I am a christian, although it never influences my political judgement.
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    No. Communism is democratic so there is no need to say "democratic communism." Also, as far as identifying as a "Christian communist," I don't really see a need to do so. "Christian communist" might technically describe you but it is not a political tendency, in the same way that "French communist" does not describe a political tendency. Unless you suppose that "Christian communism" means converting everyone to Christianity or something, which is thoroughly un-communist.
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    Democracy is communistic and anarchistic. Anarchism and communism differ in implementation of achieving communism. There is a member here that calls himself, an Catholic anarcho-communist.

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    Not necissarily, as I am a christian, but it does not mean I base my poltical opinion around it. I am basically an Anarcho-Communist, but on a personal basis, I am a christian, although it never influences my political judgement.
    If you never let it influence your political judgement then why bother? How are you 'Christian' if do not live by the teachings of the bible?
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    I'll reiterate what has been said, given it's relevance - Democratic is a given, and Christian is not relevant to stating your political position.

    whatever floats your boat I guess..
    i agree with this, as long as it doesn't blind you
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    Christian is highly relevant. Saying you are a Christian means nothing if you do not live by its book and a quick and easy example of how christianity is in total opposition to anarchism is that the aforementioned book states one must respect ones master and do as he (sexist) says. That clearly is incompatable with any strand of anarchism. Christianity and anarchism are as much dialectical opposites as dialectical opposites can be.
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    Christian is highly relevant. Saying you are a Christian means nothing if you do not live by its book and a quick and easy example of how christianity is in total opposition to anarchism is that the aforementioned book states one must respect ones master and do as he (sexist) says. That clearly is incompatable with any strand of anarchism. Christianity and anarchism are as much dialectical opposites as dialectical opposites can be.
    ideologically, I agree with you completely, but give him a break. He says he doesn't live by the book. You say this doesn't qualify him as a Christian, but then it's evident that the problem is on the usage of a term. The belief is fantasy (which is as far as his religiousness goes) is irrational, but not incompatible communism.

    I hope this doesn't sound aggressive to you, as I'd hate to anger a fellow anarchist communist.
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    Quick! Someone get the torches and pitch forks! There's a new user trying to ask questions and he's reached 2 posts without being scared off yet!


    Someone be a dick about his religion even though he says it doesn't factor into his politics! Stat! And if he insists on saying that it really, really doesn't affect anything, then attack his belief in Christianity on those very grounds! Don't worry that it's totally irrelevant to politics at that point, irrelevant, off-topic dickery is one of the best ways to scare people away!


    Oh, wait....
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    ideologically, I agree with you completely, but give him a break. He says he doesn't live by the book. You say this doesn't qualify him as a Christian, but then it's evident that the problem is on the usage of a term. The belief is fantasy (which is as far as his religiousness goes) is irrational, but not incompatible communism.

    I hope this doesn't sound aggressive to you, as I'd hate to anger a fellow anarchist communist.
    Im not angered at all and I am not seeking to condescend to the OP. It is my job as a rational human being to question why two completely opposing views can find a home in one human brain. One of three things will happen here. Either that brain will die holding these two opposing views or one of the opposing views will prevail, as a materialist I hope the materialist outlook will previal and the OP will ditch religion. It seems surplus to requirements already. There is no definition of Christianity unless it relates to the bible and thus if ye doth not live by it ye is not a Christian. Very simple for me.
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    The "Democratic" is redundant.
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    The "Democratic" is redundant
    Explain.
    "The essence of all slavery consists in taking the product of another's labor by force. It is immaterial whether this force be founded upon ownership of the slave or ownership of the money that he must get to live" -Leo Tolstoy

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    Quick! Someone get the torches and pitch forks! There's a new user trying to ask questions and he's reached 2 posts without being scared off yet!


    Someone be a dick about his religion even though he says it doesn't factor into his politics! Stat! And if he insists on saying that it really, really doesn't affect anything, then attack his belief in Christianity on those very grounds! Don't worry that it's totally irrelevant to politics at that point, irrelevant, off-topic dickery is one of the best ways to scare people away!


    Oh, wait....
    Way off the mark.
    "The essence of all slavery consists in taking the product of another's labor by force. It is immaterial whether this force be founded upon ownership of the slave or ownership of the money that he must get to live" -Leo Tolstoy

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    Communism = stateless and classless society, meaning it is based around popular control of society rather than control by a ruling class.

    How else could that happen without direct democracy?
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    Communism is democratic.
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    Communism is democratic.
    So why could it be redundant?
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    Way off the mark.
    Right, you're just nitpicking things that (once he's made it clear that it doesn't effect his politics) are totally irrelevant. It doesn't effect his politics, therefor it's none of your damn business (on this forum at least.)


    Im not angered at all and I am not seeking to condescend to the OP. It is my job as a rational human being to question why two completely opposing views can find a home in one human brain. One of three things will happen here. Either that brain will die holding these two opposing views or one of the opposing views will prevail, as a materialist I hope the materialist outlook will previal and the OP will ditch religion. It seems surplus to requirements already. There is no definition of Christianity unless it relates to the bible and thus if ye doth not live by it ye is not a Christian. Very simple for me.
    Reconcile your first sentence with the rest of that paragraph, please. I found the bolded bits to be particularly condescending.

    I guess you're assuming that you, being the great rational human being illuminating the rest of humanity that you are, can tell him that it's impossible for him to reconcile his own beliefs even though the poor soul thinks he already has! I also think it's a bit simple and frankly, arrogant to claim to be able to define exactly what it means to be a Christian, regardless of the fact that most sects (or all) of Christianity don't follow every stricture imposed, because that would be fucking impossible. Also, you'd have to disregard the fact that there were many texts that existed in early Christianity that were suppressed and excluded from 'the' bible! The exact words of the 'bible' as we know it today are what makes a Christian then. Furthermore, there's no such thing as a Christian, apparently.
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    You can be Christian and anarchist. Check out http://www.jesusradicals.com/ They are a pretty large Anarchist group.
    Check out Jacques Ellul Anarchy and Christianity

    And welcome!
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