Jesus Christ, what are you trying to accomplish?
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Anarchists are wrong about U.S.S.R.
(the title was mend to be sarcastic)
The '''Vinnytsia massacre''' was a mass execution of mostly Ukrainians people in the Ukrainian town of Vinnytsia by the Soviet secret police NKVD during joseph Stalin's Great Purge in 1937–1938. Mass graves in Vinnytsia were discovered during the Nazi GermanyGerman occupation of Ukraine in 1943. The investigation of this site coincided with the discovery of a similar site in Katyn Because the Germans wanted to use this evidence of Communist terror to discredit the Soviet Union it became one of the better researched sites of mass murder among many in Ukraine.
Last edited by Verix; 12th August 2009 at 03:06.
Jesus Christ, what are you trying to accomplish?
You don't even explain about the incident about each of those picture?
How about famine in India, Africa, the massacre of many people by the military dictatorship supported by USA, the Israel discrimination on Palestinian, the Romanis, the Jews, the massacre by the White Russian, the starvation of the Irish Potatoes Famine?
Or how about the general picture of how life is under USSR? The average citizen, the wish by many Russian to see USSR return? Why DOES IT HAPPENS? What causes them to do so?
Again, go back to your fantasy thinking your revolution will be clean, moralism, and quick.
oh sure lets see the average citizin and ignore the pics of streets full of dead bodys yep everyday thing nothing out of the ordinary (and about other genocides, yea they were just as bad if not worse however EVERYBODY on this site agrees they were bad were as with the purges midguided assholes think they did not happen so i decided to show some pics)
Where did I suggest about ignoring the picture of full of dead bodies when I said why does it happen? I would like know what those incident were but you did not tell me anything, thus your argument is childish and sectarian.
And secondly, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG when you think that Leninist doesn't believe massacre happen at all, we all aware that it did happen, and it is inevitable it will happen again, and we prefer where the life will be progressive for them rather than seeing suffering under landowner, capitalist, discrimination for another 200 years more as betraying them because we consider every human being should be alive and the revolution is not.
But again, you are affected by THESE picture instead of seeing the general picture.
So which one were more alive, the massacre or the civilian?
So. . . What was the point of this thread? Did you have a bad day and come here for some attention and positive reassurance from your anti-Stalin budbuds? I don't mean to sound like a jackass, even though I am. But so many threads like this already. Also the topic is very troll like. The whole thread is troll like.
[FONT=System][FONT=Arial][FONT=Impact][FONT=Arial Narrow]"A “mass” organ? We totally fail to understand what kind of animal this is. Do you mean to say we must descend to a lower level, from the advanced workers to the mass, that we must write more simply and closer to life? Do you mean to say our aim is to descend closer to the “mass” instead of raising this already stirring mass to the level of an organized political movement?" --V.I. Lenin
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found another one Katyn
i'm just sick of stalinists saying the purges never happened and theres no proof also i'm loving how the stalinists dont explain the photos and just pass me off as a troll
Because you are one. "lol, dead bodies, stain is evil, ussr bad. lets make another thread about it, lol."
found another one Katyn
i'm just sick of ML's they the purges never happened and theres no proof also i'm loving how the stalinists dont explain the photos and just pass me off as a troll
[FONT=System][FONT=Arial][FONT=Impact][FONT=Arial Narrow]"A “mass” organ? We totally fail to understand what kind of animal this is. Do you mean to say we must descend to a lower level, from the advanced workers to the mass, that we must write more simply and closer to life? Do you mean to say our aim is to descend closer to the “mass” instead of raising this already stirring mass to the level of an organized political movement?" --V.I. Lenin
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow]"The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers." [/FONT]
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1. No Marxist-Leninists think that there were no purges
2. I also dislike Stalin but that doesn't mean you're not a troll
So you are posting pictures taken by the Nazis of supposive Soviet atrocities, yeah that's credible.
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I am far from a Stalinist btw.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
a troll for putting up photos of a event that quite a few people on this site say never happened and presenting it sarcasticly....ok maybe the sarcasm was to much i'll remove it and while i understand spectacism about the fact the were taken by nazis photo number 2 was not....the corpses are too old to have been killed by the nazis
The Katyn massacre:
The Poland during between WWI to the day they got invaded: Poland government were fascist, so fascist that even Jews and Romanis are consider inferior under the Poland government. They even make anarchists and communists disappeared under their government and are enjoying exploitative on the Poles.
Surprisingly, these officer server under the Polish fascist government. Why do they serve it if they already aware about the suffering?
Thus, my conclusion, I support to destroy those fascist. Why you sympathize to them? I know why! because they are human being, right? Torturing on the Poles, Romanis, and Jews is a good reason for them to stay alive.
Secondly, why there was Canadian and American officer? They supported this government. and The Poland government in exile are actually enjoying doing business with the Germany until the Germany demanded them to give them Danzig and Prussian.
So, should we let those fascist reign and keep killing their people?
No.
The sarcasm along with the fact that you made almost no argument and there are already plenty of anti-Stalin/USSR threads. It's still trollish.
[FONT=System][FONT=Arial][FONT=Impact][FONT=Arial Narrow]"A “mass” organ? We totally fail to understand what kind of animal this is. Do you mean to say we must descend to a lower level, from the advanced workers to the mass, that we must write more simply and closer to life? Do you mean to say our aim is to descend closer to the “mass” instead of raising this already stirring mass to the level of an organized political movement?" --V.I. Lenin
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No, no, its fine...who cares anyways? There just a bunch of dead people, there are millions of those things in history. What better is there to make sarcastic jokes about? Let alone the half-assed liberal 1-up nature of this thread. go troll somewhere else.
Katyn was not a "purge", they are different events.
eta: and the purges aren't even controversial (everyone agrees they happened), so why you chose to go with Katyn I'm just not sure.
yes but i have not seen a anti-stalin thread with pics yet. my sarcasim was a bad idea and my sources are sketchy i'll ammit that
i wasnt making a joke about the people in the photo i was making one about assholes like you who say it never happened and i explained about the other genocides in history before we all agree they were bad
they were the only photos i could find and the first 3 are not Katyn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnytsia_massacre
also Poland's conscription system required every unexempted university graduate to become a reserve officer so many of the evil fascists killed at katyn were forced into the army
Last edited by Verix; 12th August 2009 at 03:25.
Yeah, I actually think this thread could have gone over OK without the sarcasm.
