mmm... don't think so.
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I know it's a weird question, but I've seen him often with his cigar. So, did he used marijuna or didn't?
Experience is a hard teacher becouse she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.
- Vernon Sanders Law
mmm... don't think so.
this question has been posted before, and resently too. the answer it no, he did not use pot. he smoked cigars, and drank wine (exept when he was in war), but he did not do any other drugs.
Yo soy un caracol
wine? I thought I read that he never used alcohol
Red wine with soda, an Argentine custom. He drank almost no alcohol.
BTW, there is a very popular beverage among youngsters in Spain, red wine & coke, called "calimocho".
HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
\"Así se resignará (el oprimido) a vivir una vida que no es la suya como si fuera la única posible.\"
\"Thus he (the oppressed) will resign himself to live a life that is not his, as if it was the only possible one.\"
Eduardo Galeano.
OMG. I didn't think things would sink this low.
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Mine was just a parenthesis..., or are you talking about the whole thread?
HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
\"Así se resignará (el oprimido) a vivir una vida que no es la suya como si fuera la única posible.\"
\"Thus he (the oppressed) will resign himself to live a life that is not his, as if it was the only possible one.\"
Eduardo Galeano.
Sad, oh well. We should restart this board.
Drake,
Some apparently "nonsense" topics we discuss are in fact part of youngsters real life, about how and what they feel. And, IMO, I think is valid to respond. But I understand your point.
Young people regard Che as a symbol of what can be achieved, a symbol of hope, of freedom, and in a certain way, he appears to be an "almost" perfect human. Inside ourselves, we would all like to be like him. We would all like to be mighty and save the world. We admire him.
But because he was an extremely "modern" man, ahead of his age, some may think he smoked grass/pot, but I'm sure he was far above taking drugs, for drugs are a product of Capitalism and have nothing to do with dedicating your life to help people in need.
Che devoted his life to teach the poor, the exploited classes, and the rest of humanity, to free themselves from the real "low" essence of capitalism/imperialism. (including drugs and the exploited classes who produce them so middle-class kids can spend their money buying them)
Drugs are a sample of what capitalism produces. And that is far below Che's high humanitarian values.
When I was young (20 or so) I used pot and felt wow! But three years after, I realized how much time I lost daydreaming with a socialist revolution and being some sort of hero, instead of committing myself and spending my time DOING something about it.
So, Pot may be ok for some of you, but there are sure far more interesting things to do in life. I can't really imagine Che using his precious time and knowledge smoking pot instead of constructing a new world.
He is a real MODEL and that is why it is important that young people understand that they don't need to take drugs to do something with their own lives.
BTW, Che was not a Rock Star. :wink:
Hope you don't get me wrong.
I'm sure he was far above taking drugs, for drugs are a product of Capitalism and have nothing to do with dedicating your life to help people in need.
I don't consider weed a drug. I'm sick of seeing innocent, hard-working people who smoke the ganj referred to as "drug-users." It's pathetic.
Ganja is not a drug. It is an herb, as natural as the douglas firs in your local park or the rhododendrens in your backyard.
It's natural, it relieves stress, and no one ever said you couldn't save the world while still smoking up.
On topic, I'm gonna have to go with a 'no.'
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
The problem is the "whole industry" pot puts in motion, just like cocaine. Bolivians chew coca leaves, and drink coca tea, and I don't refer to them as "drug-users". But we all know that the big drug industry supported by both, drug dealers and consumers, moves lots of money actually not destinated to support exploited people who work to produce such drugs.
At least, that's my point of view, maybe I am extremely old! :-)
The problem is the "whole industry" pot puts in motion, just like cocaine.
So do you oppose someone growing a small plant in their own home, for their own personal use?
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
No, I do not. Don't get me wrong DyerMaker. I smoke pot when I was 18-20. I had a cute but small cannabis plant at home. And, what I'm speaking about is the Narcos' large business in Latin American countries, which does in fact serve capitalism.
In some countries like mine (Argentina), Big Narcos have strong political power and they always benefit capitalist interests.
Country's should take over the Dutch system. Every adult is allowed to have one hennep plant at home.
Well with allowing a little more plants and letting it allow from 15 years, would destroy the whole weed industry.
No more exploited farmers, planting hennep for druglords.
How bout that?
Let no one charge that socialists have arrayed class against class in this struggle. That has been done long since in the evolution of capitalist society. One class is small and rich and the other large and poor....One consists of capitalists and the other of workers. These two classes are at war. Every day of peace is at the expense of labor. There can be no peace and good will between these two essentially antagonistic economic classes. - Debs
How bout that?
Sounds good to me
from DyerMaker:
It's natural, it relieves stress, and no one ever said you couldn't save the world while still smoking up.
I think you'd be too lethargic to save the world while "smoking up".
“There are no boundaries in this struggle to the death. We cannot be indifferent to what happens anywhere in the world, for a victory by any country over imperialism is our victory; just as any country's defeat is a defeat for all of us.” – Che Guevara
“We still believe that the struggle of Ireland for freedom is a part of the world-wide upward movement of the toilers of the earth, and we still believe that the emancipation of the working class carries within it the end of all tyranny – national, political and social.” – James Connolly
I think you'd be too lethargic to save the world while "smoking up".
Maybe one wouldn't get particularly intrigued by the possibility of guns-and-grenades guerrilla warfare while stoned, but plenty of great socialist minds have been enhanced by Mary Jane.
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
Who?
Experience is a hard teacher becouse she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.
- Vernon Sanders Law
"Who?"
Dunno Ari HR, maybe Marx? or maybe he preferred LSD!
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