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    'Those with the gold make the rules.'
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    Thrasymachus- "What I say is that 'just' or 'right' means nothing but what is in the interest of the stronger party."

    ( Plato's Republic.)
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    Everybody is a hypocrite. Hypocrisy negates morals and ethics.

    I vote that we should all support amorality comrades. I vote that we have a world without laws, rules, morals, and ethics.
    Wait what? Why is everyone a hypocrite? Thats a big statement that might need some backing up.
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    Wait what? Why is everyone a hypocrite? Thats a big statement that might need some backing up.
    He's projecting his own inadequacies onto others. It's not like he's got anything better to do.
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    Thrasymachus- "What I say is that 'just' or 'right' means nothing but what is in the interest of the stronger party."
    You recall of course that Thrasymachus abandoned this position under relentless cross-examination by Socrates:

    And we have admitted that justice is the virtue of the soul, and injustice its defect?

    That has been admitted.

    Then the just soul and the just man will live well, and the unjust man will live badly?

    That is what your argument proves.

    And he who lives well is blessed and happy, and he who lives badly is the opposite of happy?

    Absolutely.

    Then the just is happy, and the unjust wretched?

    So be it.

    But happiness and not misery is profitable.

    Naturally.

    Then, my blessed Thrasymachus, injustice can never be more profitable than justice.

    Let this, Socrates, he said, be your feast at the banquet of Bendis.
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    Wait what? Why is everyone a hypocrite? Thats a big statement that might need some backing up.
    Show me a genuinely honest human being that doesn't lie or deceive.

    Show me a genuinely honest human being that always tells the truth about everything no matter what.


    ( You can't.)
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    He's projecting his own inadequacies onto others. It's not like he's got anything better to do.
    Kinda like you projecting your own inadequancies in not being able to accept reality which is why you project those inadequancies into your optimistic happy feel good philosophy of yours in order to bring about a sort of personal security of mind where you ignore the more destructive tendencies of human beings behind your insistence of a absurd hope for change which you believe is possible through a equally absurd faith but where you also have no evidence to back up such a faith.

    But hey, what do I know? It's not like I got anything better to do than to sit here and chit-chat with you. ( Laughs.)
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    You recall of course that Thrasymachus abandoned this position under relentless cross-examination by Socrates:

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    You recall of course that Thrasymachus abandoned this position under relentless cross-examination by Socrates:
    Well of course he did because the writer of Plato's Republic was heavily biased in favor of Socrates.

    However I think if such a real conversation took place it would be Thrasymachus who would be the victor of the debate not the charlatan that was Socrates.

    ( And what Socrates said in the debate against Thrasymachus in Plato's republic I believe was poor weak defense.)
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    I act immoral at times. Mostly to rebel against the moralcodes for instance what the bible shows.
    (No sex before marriage, what a bullshit.)
    But I think that every 'sane' person has a moral code already picked up since the toddler age. when you start learning social-skills.
    If I had totally no moral code I would be leading a lonely life. Everybody would hate me. But we don't need a law for moral-codes I believe. The law doesn't have to tell me, if my neighbour is playing his hoempapa-music too loud at night that, that is immoral. Even a imbecile can figure that out.
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    Show me a genuinely honest human being that doesn't lie or deceive.

    Show me a genuinely honest human being that always tells the truth about everything no matter what.


    ( You can't.)
    Most people lie every now and then. Few people are actual hypocrites, which does not mean lying, it means protraying YOURSELF to be something you are not, protraying yourself to have beliefs you consiously do not have.

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