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Stalinism is Right-Wing
Placing Stalinism on the extreme left is a misnomer. The term "left" originally meant one who defends civil liberties, placing Stalinism on the extreme right, as its opponents in fact did. Anarchism is, in fact, the most radical left position possible.
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I am a pacifist. I am a Christian anarchist. In Russia the enemies of the free worker are the bureaucrats and the communists. In the United States, the enemies of the free workers are the bureaucrats and the capitalists. I don't believe in any government at all, and I am against violence of all kinds. - Ammon Hennacy
I wonder if any positive discussion will arise from this topic? Probably not.
Actually no it didn't. The distinction between left and right wings in politics derives from the seating arrangements which began during the Assemblee Nationale in 1789 [The more radical Jacobin or Montagnard deputies sat on the upper left benches].
The Jacobins and co were hardly in constant favour of "civil liberties". They were perfectly happy to use bloody repression when necessary to defend the gains of the revolution.
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I sense a tendency war coming on...
Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15
"There are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen." - Lenin
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>>"left" originally meant one who defends civil liberties<<
I believe you're referring to liberalism. There was just a thread about that today, found here.
The Left-Republicans defended individual rights.
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I am a pacifist. I am a Christian anarchist. In Russia the enemies of the free worker are the bureaucrats and the communists. In the United States, the enemies of the free workers are the bureaucrats and the capitalists. I don't believe in any government at all, and I am against violence of all kinds. - Ammon Hennacy
Left/right really doesn't mean that much these days and it's pretty pointless to spend our time in this infinite war of definitions. To be honest I don't really care if you want to call Stalinism left wing or right wing, it's bullshit which ever side you put it on.
Wouldn't that make capitalist libertarians be leftists?
As Chomsky has stated, classic liberalism is against corporate capitalism.
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I am a pacifist. I am a Christian anarchist. In Russia the enemies of the free worker are the bureaucrats and the communists. In the United States, the enemies of the free workers are the bureaucrats and the capitalists. I don't believe in any government at all, and I am against violence of all kinds. - Ammon Hennacy
Stalinism is firmly in the left wing...state capitalism is still progressive. Anarchism, however, is very broad, and can refer to many right-wing philosophies.
Where would you place Miseans on a left-right scale?
Well classic liberalism was leftist at the time it started, but now its obviously a rightist thing because the world has progressed somewhat, shifting the left-right spectrum
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Isn't the left-right scale completely economic? (Collective - Individualist)?
Stalinists are just authoritarian leftists, whereas most leftists are libertarians.
lol, this thread will never cease to amaze me.
Many see it as authoritarian - libertarian, right - left.
Such as..?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Chomsky say that classic conservativism is against corporate capitalism? Where did he say it was liberalism?
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Any "right-anarchism" that supports hierarchy is not anarchism. Remember, Stalin's communist opponents referred to him as "right-wing."
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I am a pacifist. I am a Christian anarchist. In Russia the enemies of the free worker are the bureaucrats and the communists. In the United States, the enemies of the free workers are the bureaucrats and the capitalists. I don't believe in any government at all, and I am against violence of all kinds. - Ammon Hennacy
In his emails with me over the past year, also in his books.
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I am a pacifist. I am a Christian anarchist. In Russia the enemies of the free worker are the bureaucrats and the communists. In the United States, the enemies of the free workers are the bureaucrats and the capitalists. I don't believe in any government at all, and I am against violence of all kinds. - Ammon Hennacy
Leftists are radically in favor of civil liberties, of personal freedom.
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I am a pacifist. I am a Christian anarchist. In Russia the enemies of the free worker are the bureaucrats and the communists. In the United States, the enemies of the free workers are the bureaucrats and the capitalists. I don't believe in any government at all, and I am against violence of all kinds. - Ammon Hennacy
Do you ever bother to read any books of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin? If you did not read them, then do not spew any bullshit.
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