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    What is this exactly and why is it restricted?
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    They basically want 95% of humans to "disappear" so they can go back to the glory days of dying at 25 and running through the woods killing wildebeest.

    They're restricted because they're anti-social nutjobs.
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    The human species doesn't seem to develop and equilibrium with its environment- it dominates everything, consumes all resources, and multiplies. Primitivists are betting that industrial society, despite how it is run politically, will inevitably shorten the life expectancy of the species. They want to hit the 'reset' button. I sympathize with them in this respect. I would love to see mankind turned back into its original heathen state. 'Modern' man is despicable, in my opinion.

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    they want to want to abolish all technology more advanced than a bow and arrow and agriculture and go back to hunter gathering.
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    Basically,
    The primitivist is objecting primarily to the following things:
    1) The destruction of the natural world, which s/he blames on industrialization.
    2) The overpopulation of the planet.
    3) The collective results of these two phenomena.
    The primitivist blames industrialization due to the developments which allow human beings to consume more, live longer, etc... which the primitivist then claims result in the destruction and overpopulation of the planet.

    Primitivists are restricted because a revolutionary leftist outlook reveals a materialist approach to society. Hence the leftist sees that industrialization is a necessary development in humanity, allowing it to reach new technological movements which improve the quality of life of human beings. Given that the leftist is concerned primarily with the quality of life of the working class, opposing industrialization on the grounds stated above runs contrary to the concerns of the leftist.
    The leftist will also note the incoherent nature of the primitivist's argument, as well as oversimplification of the situation as a whole.

    Hope that helps.

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    Ah, thanks.
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    'Modern' man is despicable, in my opinion.
    What, precisely, makes you think "pre-modern man" was any better?
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    I've read John Zerzan, but I can barely remember him. I sympathize with their critique of technology, particularly man's technical mastery of himself in a Heideggerian sense. I think, however, primitivism's a tad simplistic posing a "rewilding" or return to Eden in some sort of Abrahamic "postcivilization" narrative. A lot of unjustified assumptions too about the health and happiness of "primitive man." Talk about generalizations. Finally, it's totally unworkable barring nuclear catastrophe, in which case the earth would be f*cked anyways.

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