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So Yes or No?
Never.
umm. no definitely not
"Take away the right to say "fuck" and you take away the right to say "fuck the government." - Lenny Bruce
"The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple." -Oscar Wilde
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The death penalty is unacceptable in peace time society for any crime. This is because it is an ultimate and hypocritical judgement. This does not allow for the psychological study of the crime nor does it allow for the committer of the crime to receive redemption other than through spirituality.
The one exception I have is in wartime. Strong/smart committed opponents to yours who refuse to change sides and can remain a present threat to your side should be executed. It's a completely different circumstance.
So, no to peacetime and yes to opponents in war.
People who support the death penalty should be executed.
The basic ideas of Marxism, upon which alone a revolutionary party can be constructed, are continuous in their application and have been for a hundred years. The ideas of Marxism, which create revolutionary parties, are stronger than the parties they create, and never fail to survive their downfall. They never fail to find representatives in the old organizations to lead the work of reconstruction. These are the continuators of the tradition, the defenders of the orthodox doctrine. The task of the uncorrupted revolutionists, obliged by circumstances to start the work of organizational reconstruction, has never been to proclaim a new revelation – there has been no lack of such Messiahs, and they have all been lost in the shuffle – but to reinstate the old program and bring it up to date.
- James P. Cannon, 'The Degeneration of the Communist Party'
it's a paradox
[FONT=Verdana]No i dont support the death penalty is barbaric. It has no meaningful purpose. Your not saving any money by killing people insted of [/FONT][FONT=Arial][FONT=Verdana]incarcerateing them. Its not working as a deterrence. The victims are not going to be [FONT=Arial][FONT=Verdana]brought back to [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]life.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. Dont forget that inocent people will be falsely convicted and killed. And there is nothing one can do to reverse that.
Off topic: [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]Vahanian the answer to your drug problem is 240.
Amputate the invisible hand
Free the five
I am against the death penalty, but here is a question. Humans are not completely rational creatures. We need to sleep. Logically, it may be a waste of time. It isn't because of how we are. We are creatures needing sleep.
When someone wrongs us, our inclination is revenge. Why praise sleep as important and necessary while rejecting revenge as illogical and cruel? Do we not all watch films where the anti-hero takes his revenge? Don't we all cheer and think to ourselves, "that is justice?"
I still side with my rationality on this one. I think revenge subsides and you're ultimately better off having refrained. However, are you? And what makes this the case? If we knew with certainty that the person was guilty, would it change things?
This is something I'm kind of curious about the answer to. I haven't figured it out myself.
You apparently don't understand the concept of a joke.
The basic ideas of Marxism, upon which alone a revolutionary party can be constructed, are continuous in their application and have been for a hundred years. The ideas of Marxism, which create revolutionary parties, are stronger than the parties they create, and never fail to survive their downfall. They never fail to find representatives in the old organizations to lead the work of reconstruction. These are the continuators of the tradition, the defenders of the orthodox doctrine. The task of the uncorrupted revolutionists, obliged by circumstances to start the work of organizational reconstruction, has never been to proclaim a new revelation – there has been no lack of such Messiahs, and they have all been lost in the shuffle – but to reinstate the old program and bring it up to date.
- James P. Cannon, 'The Degeneration of the Communist Party'
Never.
If it has a better outcome then not executing someone then yeah.
PETER
Human beings weren't meant to sit in little cubicles, starring at computer screens all day, filling out useless forms and listening to eight different bosses drone on about mission statements.
MICHAEL
I told those fudge-packers that I like Michael Bolton's music. God.
what type of question is this to ask in a leftist forum? like really come people use your noggins!!!![]()
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One revolutionary act a day can change the world
Formerly - Rise As One
A fair few people here have unfortunately expressed support for the death penalty. Personally I think it is impossible to reconcile the death penalty with progressive politics, but consistency is not certain people's strong point.
Well I don't support the death penalty for people either born or unborn.![]()
ha ha nice one i guess thats this thread down the drains!!
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Ní Neart Go Cur Le Chéile
One revolutionary act a day can change the world
Formerly - Rise As One
There's enough threads on the subject--it was just too good of a cheep shot to miss.![]()
I have never believed, and never will believe that killing people to show that killing is wrong is right.
"... [E]very one, whatever his grade in the old society, whether strong or weak, capable or incapable, has, before everything, THE RIGHT TO LIVE, and that society is bound to share amongst all, without exception, the means of existence at its disposal." - Peter Kropotkin
"For the recognition of private property has really harmed Individualism... by confusing a man with what he possesses... The true perfection of man lies, not in what man has, but in what man is." - Oscar Wilde