Of course it was.
Speaking in terms of now I would have to say Cuba. North Korea is totalitarian, the USSR doesn't exist anymore, and China is Capitalist.
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Which nation/regime is or was closest to the ideal of Leftism?
Of course it was.
Speaking in terms of now I would have to say Cuba. North Korea is totalitarian, the USSR doesn't exist anymore, and China is Capitalist.
Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15
"There are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen." - Lenin
Anarchist Catalonia was good, and Maoist China too. Of course both of them were ultimately destroyed but I think they were definately in the right directions
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Anarchic Spain.
sing me to sleep then leave me alone
but yeah if youre talking nowadays, then Cuba's maybe the only good example.
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The state is the best example of a functional anarchic system b/c it functions almost entirely on the spontaneous enforcement of rules -- w/out using violence. How?, you ask. Special interest groups give money to political candidates in return for political favors after elections. Democratic governments runs on "contracts" that can never be enforced by the state and are in fact violently opposed to the state.
Eppur si muove -- Galileo Galilei
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China (1958-1968)
"We are now becoming a mass party all at once, changing abruptly to an open organisation, and it is inevitable that we shall be joined by many who are inconsistent (from the Marxist standpoint), perhaps we shall be joined even by some Christian elements, and even by some mystics. We have sound stomachs and we are rock-like Marxists. We shall digest those inconsistent elements. Freedom of thought and freedom of criticism within the Party will never make us forget about the freedom of organising people into those voluntary associations known as parties."
--Lenin
Socialist Party (Debs Tendency)
I hate to be the loony anarchist, but this is madness. There has never been a state close to the ideals of leftism?!
Unless the ideals of leftism are socialism from above, lack of sexual, artistic and political freedom etc etc :/
Paris Commune. Maybe Anarchist Catalonia and some parts of Mao's China. First few months of 1917 Russia.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
I don't think a place where millions were mass-murdered by the government or at least killed government caused events (ie the Great Leap Backwards or the Anti-Cultural Revolution) is truly "leftist".
What in the world is so funny about that? Did I say something inaccurate? I just stated the damn facts unless you are inclined to think that Maoistic Sadism is truly the leftist philosophy.
Maoistic Sadism? Oh man your on a roll with the cheesy labels, I find them quite funny.![]()
Lol Nixon, the objective history is very differant, and worth researching for yourself. Try to find out why some of us like it so much, there must be a reason.
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I like it so much because I hate capitalism so much.
Yes, I would suggest doing some more research before making such statements. Mao and others probably didn't kill as many people as Capitalist media claims. They inflate the numbers to make us look bad.
Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15
"There are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen." - Lenin
We don't approve of mass murder. These users are referring to leftist elements of the regime and not those who sadly perished.
What about your county's situation? What about the death, hardship, exploitation and so on faced by people in the past and today to sustain the USA and it's privileges, and create it's desired economic and world status?
Anarchist Catalonia can be one example
Maybe a bit of the Russian Revolution in the beginning years (all that stuff about the soviets, workers councils, having power in major cities)
"My heart sings for you both. Imagine it singing. la la la la."- Hannah Kay
"if you keep calling average working people idiots i am sure they will be more apt to listen to what you have to say. "-bcbm
"Sometimes false consciousness can be more destructive than apathy, just like how sometimes, doing nothing is actually better than doing the wrong thing."- Robocommie
"The ruling class would tremble, and the revolution would be all but assured." -Explosive Situation, on the Revleft Merry Prankster bus
What about Anarchist Ukraine?
In the past the US has acted cruelly and terribly like all nations in history and today too. But it's not as bad as you think, besides the United States of to-day allows you guys to say all you want (short of violence) but Maoist China or even China today would probably send me to jail for my views.