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    Which nation/regime is or was closest to the ideal of Leftism?
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    Of course it was.

    Speaking in terms of now I would have to say Cuba. North Korea is totalitarian, the USSR doesn't exist anymore, and China is Capitalist.
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    Anarchist Catalonia was good, and Maoist China too. Of course both of them were ultimately destroyed but I think they were definately in the right directions
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    Anarchic Spain.
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    but yeah if youre talking nowadays, then Cuba's maybe the only good example.
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    The state is the best example of a functional anarchic system b/c it functions almost entirely on the spontaneous enforcement of rules -- w/out using violence. How?, you ask. Special interest groups give money to political candidates in return for political favors after elections. Democratic governments runs on "contracts" that can never be enforced by the state and are in fact violently opposed to the state.
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    China (1958-1968)
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    I hate to be the loony anarchist, but this is madness. There has never been a state close to the ideals of leftism?!

    Unless the ideals of leftism are socialism from above, lack of sexual, artistic and political freedom etc etc :/
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    Paris Commune. Maybe Anarchist Catalonia and some parts of Mao's China. First few months of 1917 Russia.
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    Anarchist Catalonia was good, and Maoist China too. Of course both of them were ultimately destroyed but I think they were definately in the right directions
    I don't think a place where millions were mass-murdered by the government or at least killed government caused events (ie the Great Leap Backwards or the Anti-Cultural Revolution) is truly "leftist".
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    I don't think a place where millions were mass-murdered by the government or at least killed government caused events (ie the Great Leap Backwards or the Anti-Cultural Revolution) is truly "leftist".
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    What in the world is so funny about that? Did I say something inaccurate? I just stated the damn facts unless you are inclined to think that Maoistic Sadism is truly the leftist philosophy.
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    What in the world is so funny about that? Did I say something inaccurate? I just stated the damn facts unless you are inclined to think that Maoistic Sadism is truly the leftist philosophy.
    Maoistic Sadism? Oh man your on a roll with the cheesy labels, I find them quite funny.
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    Lol Nixon, the objective history is very differant, and worth researching for yourself. Try to find out why some of us like it so much, there must be a reason.
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    Lol Nixon, the objective history is very differant, and worth researching for yourself. Try to find out why some of us like it so much, there must be a reason.
    I like it so much because I hate capitalism so much.
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    I don't think a place where millions were mass-murdered by the government or at least killed government caused events (ie the Great Leap Backwards or the Anti-Cultural Revolution) is truly "leftist".
    Yes, I would suggest doing some more research before making such statements. Mao and others probably didn't kill as many people as Capitalist media claims. They inflate the numbers to make us look bad.
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    I don't think a place where millions were mass-murdered by the government or at least killed government caused events (ie the Great Leap Backwards or the Anti-Cultural Revolution) is truly "leftist".
    We don't approve of mass murder. These users are referring to leftist elements of the regime and not those who sadly perished.

    What about your county's situation? What about the death, hardship, exploitation and so on faced by people in the past and today to sustain the USA and it's privileges, and create it's desired economic and world status?
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    Anarchist Catalonia can be one example
    Maybe a bit of the Russian Revolution in the beginning years (all that stuff about the soviets, workers councils, having power in major cities)
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    What about Anarchist Ukraine?
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    We don't approve of mass murder. These users are referring to leftist elements of the regime and not those who sadly perished.

    What about your county's situation? What about the death, hardship, exploitation and so on faced by people in the past and today to sustain the USA and it's privileges, and create it's desired economic and world status?
    In the past the US has acted cruelly and terribly like all nations in history and today too. But it's not as bad as you think, besides the United States of to-day allows you guys to say all you want (short of violence) but Maoist China or even China today would probably send me to jail for my views.

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