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    CPC is the biggest political party in the world. If you want to see how socialism can thrive/fail (take your pick), China is the place to go.
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    lol, China isn't socialist, but come anyway, it's a fucking fantastic place, especially Shanghai and Hong Kong
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    That's my point, there is debate as to whether or not China is socialist, hence, going to see it for yourself will provide insight as to whether or not China's particular system works from a socialist point of view.
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    The claims China is socialist are by dillusional dillusional people
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    That's my point, there is debate as to whether or not China is socialist, hence, going to see it for yourself will provide insight as to whether or not China's particular system works from a socialist point of view.
    So you want him to see for himself whether a system of market capitalism can work from a socialist point of view? Seems pointless to me.
    "Direct Action is a notion of such clarity, of such self-evident transparency, that merely to speak the words defines and explains them. It means that the working class, in constant rebellion against the existing state of affairs, expects nothing from outside people, powers or forces, but rather creates its own conditions of struggle and looks to itself for its means of action. It means that, against the existing society which recognises only the citizen, rises the producer. And that that producer, having grasped that any social grouping models itself upon its system of production, intends to attack directly the capitalist mode of production in order to transform it, by eliminating the employer and thereby achieving sovereignty in the workshop – the essential condition for the enjoyment of real freedom.” Emile Pouget
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    No, I don't "want" him to see anything, he is a human being, he can do whatever he likes and I don't much care because I don't even know who he is. Like I said, you can call China whatever you want, is China socialist? This is a heavily debated question. What isn't up for debate, however, is the fact that China has a lot more socialist institutions than Japan and France do.
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    No, I don't "want" him to see anything, he is a human being, he can do whatever he likes and I don't much care because I don't even know who he is. Like I said, you can call China whatever you want, is China socialist? This is a heavily debated question. What isn't up for debate, however, is the fact that China has a lot more socialist institutions than Japan and France do.
    No it isn't really a question you can debate. China isn't socialist.
    "Direct Action is a notion of such clarity, of such self-evident transparency, that merely to speak the words defines and explains them. It means that the working class, in constant rebellion against the existing state of affairs, expects nothing from outside people, powers or forces, but rather creates its own conditions of struggle and looks to itself for its means of action. It means that, against the existing society which recognises only the citizen, rises the producer. And that that producer, having grasped that any social grouping models itself upon its system of production, intends to attack directly the capitalist mode of production in order to transform it, by eliminating the employer and thereby achieving sovereignty in the workshop – the essential condition for the enjoyment of real freedom.” Emile Pouget
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    Okay, sorry dear leader.
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    Okay, sorry dear leader.
    You're confusing me with Stalin.
    "Direct Action is a notion of such clarity, of such self-evident transparency, that merely to speak the words defines and explains them. It means that the working class, in constant rebellion against the existing state of affairs, expects nothing from outside people, powers or forces, but rather creates its own conditions of struggle and looks to itself for its means of action. It means that, against the existing society which recognises only the citizen, rises the producer. And that that producer, having grasped that any social grouping models itself upon its system of production, intends to attack directly the capitalist mode of production in order to transform it, by eliminating the employer and thereby achieving sovereignty in the workshop – the essential condition for the enjoyment of real freedom.” Emile Pouget
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    You are greater than even the great glorious hero of socialism, Comrade J. V. Stalin. You are a God amongst Communists, you are the judge of all things socialist.

    Hail!
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    Red Son you need a girlfriend
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    No it isn't really a question you can debate. China isn't socialist.
    Whether or not you like it, it is a question you can debate, not only because (shockingly enough) some people disagree with you, but also because the question is far more nuanced than you would like to believe. Do I agree with you or CPC leadership on this issue? No, I don't, so I would engage in a debate, and my position in this debate would be strengthened if I visited the People's Republic of China myself and saw its society first-hand.

    By the way, I'll re-read the thread to check for this, but has anyone gotten to Laos or Vietnam? Any info on that would be very much appreciated.
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    Red Son you need a girlfriend
    What a completely uncalled for and frankly stupid remark, if I didn't have a partner, I might actually be offended by this, keep your narrow-minded thoughts to yourself, please, thanks.
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    The revolution is my girl/boyfriend!
    They haven't really been putting out lately, eh?
    We've got your war!
    We're at the gates!
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    We've got the guillotine...
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