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    What do you think Che thinks about Fidel?


    [edit] ...think of Fidel right now.

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    I think Che would have admired how Fidel has weathered the years, particularly overcoming the fall of communism in the east, working out a new plan, and keeping socialism going.

    People say Fidel has lost touch with the people, I'm not so sure that's true, they revere him as a father figure somewhat how Catholics revere the pope.

    I think age would have mellowed Che into seeing how idealism and realism only ocasionally collide and he would have been proud of his old friend.

    Plus, he would have laughed his ass off when Fidel opened the prisons and mental wards for the mariel boatlift to Florida.

    Finally, Che would have been there to ruffle Elian Gonzalez' cute little hair when he came home.
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    i agree with supermodel, i think che would be proud. cuba has survived some shit and done pretty damn good. things could be better without the trade embargo but that is the US's doing.
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    I think Che's ideas on communism differed from Fidel's, in the sense that Che was perhaps looking at the bigger picture: spreading communism and consolidating in South America, whilst Fidel was more into nation-building (as in strengthening Cuba as a bastion against regional US influence, and genreally getting his shit together with other commie states).

    But the ultimate mindfuck would be the fact that if Che were around today, and hypothetically speaking, the revolution had succeeded in Bolivia, everything changes. Che would probably be somewhere in Peru or Chile right now, helping out over there.

    But the reality is that men like Che don't really lead long, comfortable lives. They do what they were born to do, and then they die, once it's done and once they know they have served a meaningful purpose to their cause. I don't think of Che as a man who would ever sit around and smile at people from his balcony, he'd be there on the street, talking to them himself...
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    i think if he were alive he would have laughed when fidel talked about the US and how they did the argentina thing.
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    Hey it isnt as if Fidel was or isnt an internationalist. He continued the internationalist agenda well after the death of guevara. South Afrika comes to mind as does central america
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    NO, if Che were alive today he would absolutely be the president of Argentina if not all of Latin America.
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    fidel was threatened by che's thoughts on how a government should be, which in his later years were definitely not communistic...fidel wanted to rid of che, why do you think he pardoned che from his position in 65...
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    Why?
    A) Che was a failed economist
    B) Che felt most alive in the jungles and wanted to be in the midst of guerrilla operations
    C) Che couldn't be a stationary statesmen for much longer
    D) Fidel did it because Che wanted it. Fidel tried to talk him out of leaving but Che was notoriously stubborn. No one on earth was going to talk che out of revolutionary internationalist activities

    Thats why.
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    Quote: from Lonny Walker on 5:33 am on Aug. 8, 2002
    fidel was threatened by che's thoughts on how a government should be, which in his later years were definitely not communistic...fidel wanted to rid of che, why do you think he pardoned che from his position in 65...
    Fidel Pardonned Che because Che wrote to him saying he wanted to terminate his Cuban Citizenship just before Bolivia. I think the letter is on this site somewhere.
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