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    I as an Argentine (Che´s country of birth) have more than once heard the rumor that Che was the Grandson of the owner of Phillips (Dutch Co. of electrodomestics)
    and he became furios and jealous because he didn´t receive a piece of it.
    This rumor said that because of this Che became a communist and started his fight.
    Do you believe this?
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    Nunca lo he oído pero yo no lo creería de todas formas. It just really seems outrageous and untrue already. Interesting, but insanely foolish..

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    Lol............thats the most stupid thing I hear on all the time I was on this site......hahahaha.....Phillips.....lol
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    Interesting theory, though I cannot personally accept it.

    Che spent his entire life fighting against Capitalism - were it to have been sparked because of a family feud based on not receiving a portion of a business, he would have been more than furious and jealous, he would have been literally insane.

    No, Che's head was level, he was certainly sane. And while his heart fit his chest cavity, but it was too big for his time.

    His life might well have turned out much different had he not been so sick as a child. The same should be said about the fact that his parents, especially his mother, were rather liberal. Evidence of his mother's liberalism lay in the fact that she went on to work in and for the Guevarist movement.

    It always appeared to me that he was in a sense isolated from the "normal life" that most of us spent out first number of years growing up in (children of both today, and decades back), and that whatever life it was that he had, was not based around any particularly Capitalist ideals. Another example of this was his father's Socialist library: the average Cappie, I would presume, would have a rather limited collection of Socialist-related books due to lack of interest in the subject. Che's father appeared to have a rather strong interest. Che spoke of not having taken a couple of months to get through the books, but years, there were certainly plenty of them.

    I can't help but think that with all those factors playing in, were Che to have had any business-related links in his family, and found out that he'd missed a portion of a business, he still would have been the type to have just shrugged it off, and continued on his own path.
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    Che could have been George Bush's son and it wouldn't have a thing to do with HIS LIFE.

    And the idea that he became a revolutionary in a fit of jealousy is absurd.

    EDIT: You said it right, a "rumor."

    (Edited by Fires of History at 4:18 pm on April 24, 2002)
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    i dont see the balance in his actions and the supposed truth of that statement?? too black and white for me to even accept as a piece of truth,

    If he really was after the fortune, he would have found a under-handed way to get back,
    big up your self
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    thats garbage, the che that we know wouldnt care about some business, he couldnt be a hoax
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    Are you sure that an American didn't start this rumour?

    There will always be people who can't stand the fact that Che was a true martyr to the revolution, someone always has to make up a reason why he did the things he did. Che was never a materialistic person. He was a humanitarian and I am always in awe of his strength, discipline, and most of all his courage.
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    It wouldn't make him a "fraud" if it were true. Just because someone comes from a bourgeois background, it doesn't mean they can't be a dedicated communist.
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    Honest Intellectual--
    Che was never wanting a "piece" of it! yes, he DID come from a wealthy background, that's not what they are accusing him of. They are trying to say he was pissed off because he didn't cash in on something. Why? A Latino man with honorable intentions always needs to have a motive behind his actions? If Che was a white man I am sure they would have never said that.
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    Che represents the spirit of the revolutionary ----
    the peasant/worker, the humble women & men who fight the inequality, injustice in this world. Not every person has the balls to fight the system. Che did! He fought against all physical and political obstacles he had in his path! Quien era el degraciado o degraciada que puede decir estas estupideses de Che! Que tonterias!
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    I read from an USSR Che book that Che's ancestors woned the Grand Canyon and even his father went many time to the court for getting it back. Is that just some crap or true?
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    well, unlike others i've come across, i don't believe Che was the epitome of all that is good, but i do think that his actions were those of a man dedicated to a cause, not someone out for revenge
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    one doesnt risk his life because of jelousy
    stop asking the opressor for freedom, eliminate the opressor and take your freedom
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    I think he is the epitome of good and hope in this ugly world, how many people can you truly say give a damn about the suffering of other people and RISK their lives in pursuing equality for ALL?
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    "how many people can you truly say give a damn about the suffering of other people and RISK their lives in pursuing equality for ALL?" CC
    I think Ernesto puts it best by his last words,
    "Coward, shoot, you are ONLY going to kill a MAN"
    that is how I think about him, as a man who cared about OTHERS, sadly you don´t see that often nowadays...
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    That's right Angry!

    Look at the leaders in the world now? The only other man I respected was Ahmad Shah Masood and the Taliban killed him because they are cowards just like Musharaaf.
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    if musharaaf was a coward, he would've run away long, long before now...
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    I agree its probely not true BUT you cant denie the fact that che as an adult was a very rich man lots of people overlook that they just say hes a revelotionary

    i had a debate earlyer to weather he was a revelotionary or just a popular icon

    i agree he is a revelotionary but all im saying he was wealth
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    ? if he was so wealth then how come he didn´t just buy weapons and asthma medicine when he needed them the most..?
    sry I am just not following you where you are going..?

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