Que c'est du bidon!
Il y a eu une tres légere allusion a re-unifier la gauche quand il y a eu la campagne/fiasco qui opposait Royal et Aubry, mais ce n'était que des belles paroles pour gagner des voix... le PS est aujourd'hui un Parti Centriste.
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Parti Socialiste en France
J'ai entendu récemment que le Parti Socialiste est en négociations avec personnes de gauche radicales en France ?
A vrai dire , j'ai doute ceci et je ne peux pas trouver n'importe quels articles de lui.
il y a manque de information de la politique en France ici dans l'Irlande.
Que pensez-vous ?
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
Que c'est du bidon!
Il y a eu une tres légere allusion a re-unifier la gauche quand il y a eu la campagne/fiasco qui opposait Royal et Aubry, mais ce n'était que des belles paroles pour gagner des voix... le PS est aujourd'hui un Parti Centriste.
Green Communist Anarchist
Occupation: Undermining Capitalism.
Tres vrai , Merci beaucoup comradeQue c'est du bidon!
Il y a eu une tres légere allusion a re-unifier la gauche quand il y a eu la campagne/fiasco qui opposait Royal et Aubry, mais ce n'était que des belles paroles pour gagner des voix... le PS est aujourd'hui un Parti Centriste.
(je parle ce en toute postes , je suis desole pour mon .. mauvais francais)
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
C'est pire! C'est un Parti Capitalist! Un des vrais enemis du Parti Nouveau Anticapitalist.
“Where the worker is regulated bureaucratically from childhood onwards, where he believes in authority, in those set over him, the main thing is to teach him to walk by himself.” - Marx
"It is illogical and incorrect to reduce everything to the economic [socialist] revolution, for the question is: how to eliminate [political] oppression? It cannot be eliminated without an economic revolution... But to limit ourselves to this is to lapse into absurd and wretched ... Economism." - Lenin
"[During a revolution, bourgeois democratic] demands [of the working class] ... push so hard on the outer limits of capital's rule that they appear likewise as forms of transition to a proletarian dictatorship." - Luxemburg
“Well, then go forward, Tower of Bebel! [August] Bebel is one of the most brilliant representatives of scientific international socialism. His writings, speeches and works make up a great tower, a strong arsenal, from which the working class should take their weapons. We cannot recommend it enough… And if the [International] deserves to be named Tower of Bebel... well, then we are lucky to have such a Tower of Bebel with us.” - Vooruit
Ca ressemble à mon espagnol, donc il n'y a pas a avoir honte:P.Tres vrai , Merci beaucoup comrade
(je parle ce en toute postes , je suis desole pour mon .. mauvais francais
Green Communist Anarchist
Occupation: Undermining Capitalism.
Absolument! Le PS a été au pouvoir dans "l'age d'or" du néoliberalisme, et il a resté sur sa philosophie de rendre le capitalisme tolérable pour la classe ouvrière, aussi appelé "changer pour que rien ne change". Le PS discrédite toute la gauche.C'est pire! C'est un Parti Capitalist! Un des vrais enemis du Parti Nouveau Anticapitalist
Les seuls parti non-capitalistes en France sont les partis qu'ils appellent "extreme gauche" pour faire peur au commun des mortels...
Green Communist Anarchist
Occupation: Undermining Capitalism.
La PS sont Sont fondamentalement le meme comme autre reformiste fait la fete si. Ceci n'est pas de surprise vraiment, j'ai ete plus etonne a l'idee qui le radical est parti s'allierait que l'autre facon environ.
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
Je ne sais pas qu'est-ce que tu veut dire avec "le radical(isme)". Peut-etre c'est parce que il y a un nouveau parti anticapitalist en France. Peut-etre c'est un sort de radicalisme comme ici en Belgique. Ici l'FGTB (Syndicat socialist francophone en Belgique) a des affiches et slogans qui disent: "Le capitalisme nuit gravement a la santé" (capitalisme severely damages your health). C'est du radicalisme alors, et nous sommes aussi vraiment etonnées, mais ça ne couvret pas leur opportunisme. Au moment que les syndicat (ou les partis capitalists) doivent organiser une vraie opposition contre le capitalisme ou la politique liberale; le moment que les mots ne sufficent pas mais qu'on doit agir; au ce moment le PS en France et L'FGTB en Belgique refusseront de rompre avec le capitalism. Alors, c'est a nous, vrais communists, de profiter de ce "radicalisme en mots" qui radicaliset aussi beaucoup des travailleurs dans les syndicats. Avec une approche transitoire (transitional approach) et d'autres demandes nous pouvons gagner ces travailleurs.La PS sont Sont fondamentalement le meme comme autre reformiste fait la fete si. Ceci n'est pas de surprise vraiment, j'ai ete plus etonne a l'idee qui le radical est parti s'allierait que l'autre facon environ.
“Where the worker is regulated bureaucratically from childhood onwards, where he believes in authority, in those set over him, the main thing is to teach him to walk by himself.” - Marx
"It is illogical and incorrect to reduce everything to the economic [socialist] revolution, for the question is: how to eliminate [political] oppression? It cannot be eliminated without an economic revolution... But to limit ourselves to this is to lapse into absurd and wretched ... Economism." - Lenin
"[During a revolution, bourgeois democratic] demands [of the working class] ... push so hard on the outer limits of capital's rule that they appear likewise as forms of transition to a proletarian dictatorship." - Luxemburg
“Well, then go forward, Tower of Bebel! [August] Bebel is one of the most brilliant representatives of scientific international socialism. His writings, speeches and works make up a great tower, a strong arsenal, from which the working class should take their weapons. We cannot recommend it enough… And if the [International] deserves to be named Tower of Bebel... well, then we are lucky to have such a Tower of Bebel with us.” - Vooruit
Quelle est l'avis sur le Parti de Gauche et la visite du Messieur Oskar Lafontaine () ?
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http://www.taz.de/uploads/hp_taz_img/xl/gauche.jpg
[Oui, je peux ecrire et parler un peu de francais, parce que mes études secondaires.]
Last edited by Die Neue Zeit; 22nd March 2009 at 07:23.
"A new centrist project does not have to repeat these mistakes. Nobody in this topic is advocating a carbon copy of the Second International (which again was only partly centrist)." (Tjis, class-struggle anarchist)
"A centrist strategy is based on patience, and building a movement or party or party-movement through deploying various instruments, which I think should include: workplace organising, housing struggles [...] and social services [...] and a range of other activities such as sports and culture. These are recruitment and retention tools that allow for a platform for political education." (Tim Cornelis, left-communist)
