I dont know what you are on about.
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I dont know what you are on about.I dont know what you are on about.
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if you can't even convince socialists to include,...if you can't even convince socialists to include, well, fascists and murderers, into 'our movement,' what sort of a change do you stand against people who do not follow marx like moses.
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well if you mean to seize 'legality' and do work...well if you mean to seize 'legality' and do work by the social respect for law, go ahead. that's what i'm thinking of doing as well but something like this is rather tricky. for one thing, it would...
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Just because people 'supported' the war does not...Just because people 'supported' the war does not mean the war was a 'people's war.' a people's war might be something like everyone in a community rushing into another one and beating them up.
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That's a good point. I do think he was way too...That's a good point. I do think he was way too focused on 'property' and treated the whole thing as natural, but then again, this is common to all classes.
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I'm sorry, but if you cannot distinguish between...I'm sorry, but if you cannot distinguish between the 'legal' in 'the law says thusly' and 'law as a social activity' then there is nothing to talk about.
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see syndicat's post
you are either not sincere...see syndicat's post
you are either not sincere or not getting it.
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what is the logic of class status?what is the logic of class status?
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geez, calm down. a social revolution is a society...geez, calm down. a social revolution is a society in whcih everyone does things differently. what you have done is an oversimplification of that process.
as for the residual remains of...
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well i took your constitution to be so drastic a...well i took your constitution to be so drastic a move as to make gradual effects impossible. maybe something softer.
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Here i am talking about a socialist community, as...Here i am talking about a socialist community, as in the goal to which we wish to move toward. there is no doubt that, as the fact of the law and all its trappings exist, there is the urgent matter...
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participate in it, but take it instrumentally....participate in it, but take it instrumentally. true politics is increasingly difficult anyway.
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my prose is shitty. but i wasn't talking about...my prose is shitty. but i wasn't talking about you. specifically i was talking about this stuff
i should have said, metaphysical rubbish, but have at it.
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furthermore, the law, by its effective presence,...furthermore, the law, by its effective presence, serves as a source of reification of moral consciousness. hence you see arguments like 'it is legal!' the fairy tale conception of believing in law as...
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there are no legal effects without a legal system...there are no legal effects without a legal system and appropriate social position etc
if you are satisfied wtih that sort of a thing, go ahead and do it, but the point should not be trying to...
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i dont consider a top down planned economy with...i dont consider a top down planned economy with no means of transforming into a socialist community an improvement. there is not even a transitiional device for when things get complicated later.
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those are not really due to constitutional...those are not really due to constitutional commitments, but civil commitments. i really dont think there is anything to follow. the most significant effect of a constitutional system is the legal...
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not necessarily. there are many socialists and...not necessarily. there are many socialists and progressive humanists, who, although deeply impressed by the problems of society, choose nonviolent methods for expression.
to talk about society as...
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well, there are good constitutions and bad ones,...well, there are good constitutions and bad ones, just that, the business is a lot of trouble. at teh very least, the constitution cannot be taken at face value.
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well, what im saying is, certain reflections...well, what im saying is, certain reflections generate certain testable hypothesises. the dialectical metohd would suggest something like an empirical genealogy of ideas, (or some other scheme...
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on a slightly related note, i have a vast bias...on a slightly related note, i have a vast bias against legal ways of doing things, it is characteristicaly irrational and uncommunity-like. it is a legitimate goal of a socialist community to rid...
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yes, i meant, to make saying...yes, i meant, to make saying 'constitution'meaningful you should give 'the constitution' a socail characteristic, presumably the current ones or the more probable ones given social conditions and...
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regardless of the psychological character of...regardless of the psychological character of young anarchists, that they are saying something cannot simply be glossed over. unless they are shallow and simple, their ideas should be taken seriously....
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well, the problem iwth that is, often times,...well, the problem iwth that is, often times, dialecticians say things they do not intent to have meaningful tests for. It is a methodological attitude i suppose, that's been largely abandoned.
i...
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Unless you mean to kill them, or otherwise...Unless you mean to kill them, or otherwise establish a claim on land and such, 'victory' is not achieved by hurling shit. The point is to convince them to become socialists. Everyone.