Russian Antifacist in coma after facists attack

...damn :angry:

Anarchist killed in Angarsk, Siberia. A protest camp was attacked by armed nazis while sleeping, several seriously injured and one anarchist killed.

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RIP.

This is why our petty differences dont matter!

This is why im sick of all of the internal arguing. Sure, argue over theory, but is there any reason for personal attacks on each other?

Why cant we all just realize who our real enemy is?

i dont understand how there could be a neo nazis in Russia. out of all places

From what I've heard, its one of the worst places, but I geuss that could be attributed to its size.

What is the reaction to this?

We have dead brothers. Killed in the night.

Fuck. :(

Their latest murders!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/14/news/execute.php

The actual video, it is fucking sick! Do not watch if you're not sure you can:
http://www.flurl.com/item/Video_Executed_2...gestan_u_270205

Another video of brave russian nazis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scMKyAYd92k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaucyLyZRdY


Iam so damn angry!

a year ago those motherfucking facists killed my friend, who lived in Moscow. those were so called skin-heads.

Russia is at war.and we are overpressed by now. because our people don't give a fuck.

I just saw the report on the beheadings.
Sick, I fear for antifa and foreigners in Russia

What we really should to is to organize an "antifa-crusade" to Russia. Really.
Like we organize resistance against G8 summits etc.

Imagine several hundred antifascists from all Europe (and probably some from elsewhere as well) coming together in, say Moscow for a week or two. All sorts of activities in buildings as on the streets, and possibly schools, work places etc. As well as confrontations and other actions against fascist individuals and groups.

Honestly, in most countries there are quite a lot engaged in militant antifascism (and much more interested in it) even though the threat is quite small (at the moment atleast). Here in Stockholm for example we allready have several groups of militant antifascists and many more wanting to participate even though there is no need for more antifascists in Stockholm: Radical socialists rarely encounter any problems with fascists and fascist activities are quite few. What we need is more general socialist initiatives, there is never enough of those. I guess the situation is similar in most western countries. In Russia however, there is a dire need for antifascist activities. Russian antifas are severely outnumbered and they need every support they can get.

Antifa groups in all the world should really organize an antifascist week (or more) in Russia. A week full of events which would put light on the situation, encourage and inspire people in Russia aswell as elsewhere.

Have the men been identified. This is horrific. I think we should hold a two minutes silence when they are identified this week. I feel so sad, thank you for posting - this serves to remind us that Capitalism is not our only enemy, that we have to fight on two fronts, and that the world is still terrible at times. I want revenge - as I'm sure the whole world does - but no revenge will be enough for this. This post is basically rambling, I'm really lost for meaningful words.

Very interesting idea.

It is so temporarly. You can't stay there forever as an international group. You must eradicate the roots and that will take time. That's why we are radicals (radex = root). Fascism, especially amongst youngsters, gains support because of Putins attacks on the working class and the betrayal by the "communist" party.

Russia today is comparable to Germany in the late 20s and 30s. Despair amongst the workers and middle classes made many turn towards national socialism. Hindenburg was a bonapartist, a strong figure who was able to keep "democracy" strong during deep crisis. Putin is also a Bonapartist. There is no real crisis in Russia's economy, but their is a social crisis. Any many turn their hopes towards fascism.

The only solution in the long term is a socialist alternative that has it's roots in the working class of Russia. It will mean a guide to social revolution. I know that it is hard to set up such an alternative in Russia, but it is definately not some sort of anti-fascist group ready to confront nazis and stay their for some weeks. It should be a strong and lasting organisation. Anarchist and/or communist, ready to confront fascist ideology with newspapers, speeches, rallies. It must be able to link fascism to the social crisis and the attacks of the putin regime on the working class.
I hope nobody will come up with the idea to confront the fascists themselves with some sort of huge antifa squad in order to take them out fysicaly.

If you think Russian skinheads are your biggest concern you are sadly mistaken. The Cossacks are back! They have been given new authority and have formed new groups.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...93698484595084

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...93262895229896

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6937562.stm

Watch the two videos and read the bbc report.

Funny. If these were Antifas beating up Nazis, then their actions would actually be considered in high regard. Violence is violence. End of story.

Of course it is. And black is black and white is white.

One thing you need to realise is that the world is not black and white, but many shades of grey. Besides, if we just acted like soft liberals, we'd be massacred all over the globe.

You misinterpreted my point totally.

I am just saying that one set of violence is found abhorrent, whereas another is praised. Neither is honourable, and neither is beneficial to any element of any movement.

Whether between countries or not, this is a war. The Fascists are not interested in peaceful cooperation towards a better society, they are trying to exterminate us and many others. Sitting in a circle singing kumbaya and being nonviolent will never stop them, it only makes us easier targets. In order to defend ourselves, we need to be able to respond to them with violence.

When did I say anything about peace and non-violence? I am talking about common sense and rational tactics.

I was referring to the cowardly tactics, which both sides endorse. Why not draw lines and fight? Why resort to dishonourable swarming? Especially when Antifas outnumber Nazis about 10 to 1, and whose message has the public and government's support? Neither guerrilla or gorilla tactics are what should be used.

Why use degenerate "protests" and resort to petty terrorism like the Black Bloc? What ever happened to having self-respect and regard for the PEOPLE? How good does it look when there are a group of gutter-punks standing around screaming with signs and throwing rocks?

The general western public is anti-racist, so are western governments, so why are Antifa disliked and arrested at protests? Acting like degenerate miscreants, no matter what your political backing, will OPPOSE general support.

If you see a Nazi, don't bother him/her, and especially do not act violent. If he attacks, of course, defend yourself, but do not incite anything - do not make him/her the victim. Allow THEM to make the mistakes, and allow the state to arrest them for illegal acts. Vigilantism is not condoned or supported by the public. It is NOT illegal to be a Nazi, it is to attack someone - remember that! A plan of attack is not defense, and is especially not SELF-DEFENSE!

If this is a war, then it is being fought very poorly from the side of the Antifas: all the advantages, but still no victory.

We have to do something about this. We cannot let our Comrades fall without justice. I am willing to begin some sort of campaign to grant Leftists fair trial (because it is certainly why these people are getting away with it, because the victims are Revolutionaries), if you are interested message me and we'll figure something out.