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Originally posted by PRskin@Dec 12 2005, 01:13 PM
a. che's face is becoming pop culture. it is cool for 14 year olds to wear his face on their t-shirts.
b. you might not be able to stop it, but that doesn't mean you have to contribute by buying them.
c. did anyone notice the link at the bottom of the page?
I've never seen a 14 year old wear his face on shirt.
I never see anyone wear his face on a t-shirt unless they are activists, or for an independent determination of Latin America.
Sure companies make all this stuff, but it doesn't catch on in the mainstream. The closest mainstream thing you'll ever see is someone trying to mimick his image, like Madonna.
If you walk around stores, I swear you see Che wallets and clocks litterally rotting on the shelves.
PRskin..
a) I agree, many kids wear it because it is 'rebellious'
b) I was always 'rebellious' and when I first heard his name and rebel, I went out and bought 2 posters of him, that's what got my interested his picture on bookshop windows and so on. I then read about him and never bought Che merch aftert that.
c) The website gets money if people click on the link, they know the [majority] of leftists won't buy anything.
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I've never seen a 14 year old wear his face on shirt.
I never see anyone wear his face on a t-shirt unless they are activists, or for an independent determination of Latin America.
where the hell have you been?!?
What does it matter if people wear his face on their shirts? If someone can name one source that proves that most or all of the Che shirts on the shelves are child labour-made, and that there are alternatives, I'd like to see it. If you see somebody wearing it, just ask them if they know what they're wearing, and talk about it. I see no problem with wearing one myself, if anything, you're representing yourself and your ideology.
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Originally posted by Matthijs@Dec 12 2005, 07:58 PM
What does it matter if people wear his face on their shirts? If someone can name one source that proves that most or all of the Che shirts on the shelves are child labour-made, and that there are alternatives, I'd like to see it. If you see somebody wearing it, just ask them if they know what they're wearing, and talk about it. I see no problem with wearing one myself, if anything, you're representing yourself and your ideology.
Everything is usually made in a sweatshop, markers and paints you use to make banners are made is factories.
Everything you eat is from some form of exploitation; even if you grow your own food, where did the seeds come from?
Thats capitalism, theres no way around unless we overthrow it and replace it with socialism.
In my eyes wearing a Che t-shirt represents your views to an extent, but its almost like wearing any other t-shirt. I don't look down on anyone who knows what Che stood for, and wears his shirt. Might as well wear a Che t-shirt than a plain white one right?
Is there any shop or e-shop that sells leftist clothes and merch, that doesn't exploit and supports a movement or organisation?
I was looking at this place; ###
Yes, the Che Store/
Che-Lives Store are the most obvious, I have no idea where they get their stuff from though.
The only thing that worries me are leftists thinking i'm a fool that doesn't know who Che even is..while I wear the t-shirt.
So if we're going by the text that because Che opposes something, we should oppose it too, then we should stop buying fruits and vegetables from the tropics, as it's almost most probable that they came from the United Fruit Company. And we all know Che despised the UFC.
Everything you're wearing right now probably came from a sweatshop...some of you need to stop being 'orthodox-Guevaran', and understand that the phasing out of sweatshops will not happen overnight. It'll take time. In the meantime, spread the awareness; the more people know, the better resistance against sweatshop labour will be continued and eventually eradicated.
My 2 cents on top of what I said before in this thread.
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Originally posted by Matthijs@Dec 14 2005, 07:00 PM
Yes, the Che Store/Che-Lives Store are the most obvious, I have no idea where they get their stuff from though.
That is a good thought.
Can anyone (admin or so) comment on where there things are bought?
Ok, did ANYBODY read what I've posted?
Sheesh.
Speaking of Che Merchandise, does anyone happen to know where I can find a US Flag with Che's Face on it?
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Ok, did ANYBODY read what I've posted?
Sheesh.
Dude, i totally agree with you. Honestly, everyone keeps saying "omg dont buy those shirts, dont you know who he was and that he was against sweatshops?"
No shit. So am i but there i no way around it.
Honestly, to all who oppose che memorabilia, take a look at the tags of the shirt/pants/shoes you are wearing now. Chances are it was made somehere overseas in an underdeveloped country. There is no way around it, so why not use the freaking means that capitalism gives you to raise warness against it? And eventually destroy it?
Thank goodness for Red Leader. Finally someone understands.
To those that think by wearing Che Guevara's face on their chest is stupid especially if you know about the man....then prove to me there's an alternative to buying clothes from sweatshops. And a viable alternative at that. I'm not talking about some internet site, or some underground label no one's heard about...i'm talking a viable alternative, where anyone can get it. Thought so.
It's so hypocritical to say one thing, and do the other. So instead of Che's face, should we plaster Tommy, or Nike, etc? Or should we just get plain Tommy/Nike tees without the logo. This site's littered with that infamous picture of Che; get used to it. And with all the people that have become aware about him, I think Guevara would like that his message has been so internationally known.
For once, relax. Most people don't give a shit what you're wearing anyways (with few outrageous exceptions).
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Originally posted by shamrok16@Dec 11 2005, 12:22 AM
before everyone thinks im some far right fascist, read what i have to say. everyone talks about che and loves che and wears shirts with his face on them, well where are those shirts made? you wear shirts with the face of man who fought to help empoverished sweat shop workers in south america, when that very shirt was made by empoverished sweat shop workers in south america and all over the world. the guy who owns the copywrite to the che trademark is a multi milionaire who is sadly making money off dumb kids who buy the che cloths so they feel like they are "questioning authority"
sorry i would have to disagree, as i know there are workers in south america selling the shirts to make a living and have printed the image them selfs on the shirt, and DO NOT pay the millionare you supposly say. My sourse you might ask?? My friends, im uruguayan :)
but i totally disagree and am fed up with people wearing his shirt for fashion!
the guy who took the che pickture really didnt get shit for it.
Phe picture after the funeral of the people in the boat us blowed up.
Alberto Korda i think. Any ways he lives somewhere in france, his son actualli lives in Norway. They didnt get shit, and people made t shirts at will
I own one which my sister bought from some locals in Nacahuazu. It's what got me interested in Che becuase I thought he looked like my dad. (He really does...)
ha ha ha, thats really cool.
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Originally posted by norwegian commie@Jan 4 2006, 01:40 PM
the guy who took the che pickture really didnt get shit for it.
Phe picture after the funeral of the people in the boat us blowed up.
Alberto Korda i think. Any ways he lives somewhere in france, his son actualli lives in Norway. They didnt get shit, and people made t shirts at will
I believe he has teamed up with the Guevara Family to stop its blatant use of Che's image
maddox, if anyone reads his famous blog, made a spoof of che's (now) logo-ish picture, by putting himself as the guy with the beret, but with a patch and some other stuff.
allota prep people at my school also are strting to wear tight che shirts
they dont even know who the fuck he is.
vans has also started a che shoe.
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