You said you didn't mean Syriza or Antarsya when you were talking about the revolutionary left. You claimed you meant many revolutionary groups, trotskyist, anarchist, left communist outside of these two organizations.
I asked you to name these groupings since you're so familiar with them and tell me more about their aims to verify that they're revolutionary.
You didn't -couldn't- do that and instead spoke again of Syriza.
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In 2012 it was already argued by prominent and long term KKE members that SYRIZA was not a unity party but rather a coalition of different groups. Some of these groups are revolutionary.
Oh pretty please, please name these revolutionary groups in Syriza and their revolutionary stance. You know, the fact that the most
revolutionary of them only go as far as antarsya in claiming the euro and the "german prison" is the source of our problems. That with a change of currency, everyone could be happy, workers would be better off and capitalists would invest all their money to bring us jobs! I can specifically mention DEA for example that is of this opinion. That wants to fight for a return to drachma and not for a revolution.
Can you name one that is revolutionary or are you that full of shit?
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Have you actually read the 19th congress thesis of the KKE?
.the KKE did...to their credit...adopt a socialism now strategy...you know....rather than the stages strategy they previously adopted and now critisize in others Unfortunately they added:
However, when the Central Committee of the KKE sets transition to socialism as a direct aim, it proposes no “indications and road plans” on how to achieve this except: ' to avoid untimely struggles And to wait until the objective conditions of the socialist revolution come onto the working class’s daily agenda.”
And this is just how full of it you are. You ask me whether I've read the thesis of the 19th congress. have you read it? And if you've read it, why aren't you quoting that directly but instead relying on that
http://www.workersliberty.org/story/...fake-left-turn
Why what is an excerpt from that ridiculous article (that much to your disgust I assume, proposes a
united front with the Obama-loving, enterpreneur praising Syriza) is presented by you as if it written by the communist party?
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In reality a large chunk of KKE members had understood the duty to form a united front with Syriza aiming at a government of the Left, dialectically linked to working class struggle and organisation.
However, when the Central Committee of the KKE sets transition to socialism as a direct aim, it proposes no “indications and road plans” on how to achieve the aim. All that was spelled out in the theses was to avoid untimely struggles (such as the slogan of the government of the Left) and to wait until “the objective conditions of the socialist revolution come onto the working class’s daily agenda.”
Of course the actual theses say nothing about "avoiding untimely struggles". They instead say that socialism is a very timely struggle and in fact the real solution to our problems. And these theses were supported by 97-98% of the party members.
So let me sum up. You speak of a revolutionary fragmented left. When you're called out on that you refuse that you mean Syriza.
Then you can't name the other groups that make up this left so you again return to "some trotskyist groups in syriza that are revolutionary"
You refuse to explain how and why these are revolutionary as from what I know, all they're dreaming is drachma. Everything else is
untimely.
You oppose the communist party not based on its positions, but based on how they are interpreted by someone who supports Syriza.
And you have the nerve to use that interpretation and claim it's the communist party's words. That they added that to the congress' decisions.
So all in all, I believe that I have understood why you think the way you think.
See, you're a reactionary and all you are dreaming is also a humane capitalism. You don't want to admit that so you'll make up stories on how denying revolution is the revolutionary thing to do. On how the working class is served by tougher negotiations or by a national currency and "money printing".
The problem isn't that you're dumb or irrational. If you wanted a revolution, then this behaviour would be inexplicable. You don't want one and you just would hate to admit it. You want a potentially good government taking over and looking after you. And it's not even weird that you're an anarchist. Many anarchists in Greece voted for Syriza, expressing in that way their love for Obama and for the values of European Union. Even one anarchist "terrorist-bank robber" was found to have supported Syriza in the elections (
after he was arrested people checked his twitter).
See, that's what you are. Not confused and misguided. Just a liar.
And since there is no confusion in you, that is why it is impossible for me to change your mind. You don't need to hear that Syriza -along with revolutionary groups it carries- praises Obama and a supposedly progressive management of capitalism. You know that. You like that. It's what you dream.
And I can do nothing except wait until finally those frauds manage to get into office and "betray" you, along with many other fans of theirs here.
Not that this will make you understand that a humane capitalism is impossible.
No, being the good anarchist you are you'll trust some other pseudo-leftist down the way.
But watching you and the rest of the fans having the betrayed look... Well, I feel a bit bad to say it but it will be extremely enjoyable.