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Originally Posted by Lenina Rosenweg
Again, why not ISO?
ooooooh these call-outs get so melodramatic![/squeel]
But to answer your question: because we're not rent-a-red.
I can't speak for the Seattle comrades, but we generally didn't do any electoral campaigns - except for maybe propositions in some areas, but not in Nor Cal.
We don't really see trying to get socialists elected as a useful strategy right now. If there was an organized effort of broader forces to challenge the Democrats, then that could be valuable way to try and create a wedge with union support for the Democratic party. If there was a campaign representing the viewpoint of a movement, like if there was a new Civil Rights movement and an anti-racist party ran some protest candidates, then electoral support could be a useful show of support for the movement.
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Originally Posted by Lenina Rosenweg
An issue is that the ISO, which has a large presence in Seattle and is the largest socialist organisation in the US today, refused to support Kshama Sawant even after being explicitly asked for their support.The campaign was not even mention in the ISO paper, Socialist Worker, which normally has a very thorough coverage of movement activities.The ISO initially even refused to acknowledge our request.
So by largest presence, in US revolutionary group terms, you mean like 50-80 people or something? I'm guessing that you don't mean you wanted a passive endorsement - like 80-some-odd votes would make a difference. So you want to know why we didn't divert out time and energy away from the things we were involved in (anti-police brutality, anti-budget cuts, etc) to help build another group's strategy and organization?
Is that sectarian? I guess if that candidate considers themselves the center of the anti-capitalist Left, then it would be pretty sectarian not to support it.
Ok, in all seriousness, we didn't endorse or campaign for anyone officially. Best of luck to PSL and Peace and Freedom and everyone else, but unless there was some organic broad movement out of disgust with the Democrats and austerity, I don't really see what the point of such a campaign would be and frankly we've had bad experiences supporting campaigns in the hope that it might rally some of the scattered opposition to the Iraq war in the past.
If Occupy had ran a bunch of slates of protest candidates with an oppositional stance to the Democrats, then I think that would be more like an organic rallying point for broader pools of class anger out there and I think that would be something that all sorts of radicals should support and a way for the Occupy movement itself to grow and develop and articulate it's grievances.
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Originally Posted by Lenina Rosenweg
I mean this as a respectful question, my intention is not sectarian bashing.
This frankly does not seem truthful when the very next section is an unfounded implication of sectarianism as policy in the ISO...
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Originally Posted by Lenina Rosenweg
the ISO seeming to see the "left" in the US and socialism essentially being themselves.
You know I really just can't take things like this seriously - in Oakland our members helped start the Labor Solidarity Committee which had more people from more organizations that are represented on this website (from any one country anyway). I personally have worked in coalitions with a whole range of people of various viewpoints and from various organizations.
Being sectarian would probably look more like "exposes" in our websites and people leafleting outside of the tour-stops and whatnot. "Not working for them" and having our own politics and priorities is not being sectarian.