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    Although Luxemburg was a proponent of spontaneity, she did emphasize the necessity for organization as well. The vanguard in Luxemburg's eyes was not a leading minority of elites, as Lenin had theorized.

    If I were to continue from that quote I gave you, in Luxemburg's "The Russian Revolution", she states:

    "But this dictatorship must be the work of the class and not of a little leading minority in the name of the class -- that is, it must proceed step by step out of the active participation of the masses; it must be under their direct influence, subjected to the control of complete public activity; it must arise out of the growing political training of the masses".
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    I'll look into the thread.

    And you're certainly welcome!
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    A good quote, in relation to this is:

    "Socialist democracy begins simultaneously with the beginnings of the destruction of class rule and of the construction of socialism. It begins at the very moment of the seizure of power by the socialist party. It is the same thing as the dictatorship of the proletariat.

    Yes, dictatorship! But this dictatorship consists in the manner of applying democracy, not in its elimination, but in energetic, resolute attacks upon the well-entrenched rights and economic relationships of bourgeois society, without which a socialist transformation cannot be accomplished." - Rosa Luxemburg
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    I'll be as sure to join in, though not immediately, I'm on vacation, you see..
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    Correct, that is what Engels is saying, application of proletarian democracy essentially.

    However, that quote is not in the critique of the gotha programme, but in the critique of the draft of the Social-Democratic program of 1891.

    Engels does, in fact, use the term "dictatorship of the proletariat". Here's a quote from the critique of the gotha programme, section 4:

    "Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat."
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    Certainly not. It is describing the form the workers' state is to take. That of a democratic republic!
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    Yeah I'm okay thanks. I ate loadsa choccy last night. A full Cadburys chocolate egg and the two cream eggs inside it, and some choocies me mam gave me as well haha. Take care mate
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    Hope you are well, comrade?
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    It's automatic comrade,when you reach 1200 posts,it just happens.

    But yeah,thanks.
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    Thanks for the invitation to friendship. Accepted yeah. Safe
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