Lyev

Well, I think it is even time to move beyond all of these isms! We know what works and what doesn't work and why etc. Instead of all these recriminations all over the place, why not take what works and why put it together and form the New International? A true revolutionary movement!!!

What separates me from you is probably only our definition of the state. If we could find a way around that then who knows?

It's the same in anarchist cicrles too, if it's not arguing about Bakunin it's Kropotkin and then someone invents yet another adjective to tack onto the word itself.

How about REVOLUTIONISM!!!

You're welcome--- re your other point, see my New International thread... not many ideas there I am afraid. The problem is this, in my experience we always seem to get bogged down in various ideological debates about the interpretations of the interpretations etc etc --- bla bla bla... all these long dead bearded Russians (as a metaphor) and various figures from around the world like Mao etc without looking forward. I am not saying that historical analysis is useless but if all we do is sit round analysing all the time...well, anyway... new and fresh ideas based on solid principles is what we need.

ur 15? that's awesome! I wonder how many people here are under 18...
btw...nice sig!

Good luck with the Stalinists. Several of us have tried to take them on, but it doesn't even go in one ear, never mind out of the other.

Thanks -- arguing with Stalinists is like taking on holocaust deniers, you are never going to win.

Trotsky's The Revolution Betrayed contains an excellent analysis of Stalin's SIOC and Lenin's internationalism.

Liked your posts in the group by the way. Bloody Stalinists.