Lyev

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GdgE...eature=related
Also check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMGACqsg5A

"have you got the time to briefly explain why?"
Absolutely.
Psychonanalysis and Marxism (as well as other forms of leftist liberation theories) deal with the human being in conditions as their subject, the realization of the free, "inner" man as their goal, and seek to accomplish this by freeing people by irrational, mystical constraints which are often expressed via our labor or mental activity, as opposed to necessarily purely external force. External force is the classical notion of oppression, and the aforementioned liberation theories deal with the emancipation of the human being from forces primarily external, but which have created internal forces in the human being to "allow" us to voluntarily enforce acceptable or preferred activity.

I think you'll find that these are the critical ideas frequently expressed in these systems... I would suggest "Escape From Freedom" by Fromm and "Introduction to Psychoanalysis" by Freud.

haha well you don't have to be a stalinist. All forms of socialism have infringed upon individual liberties.

Sorry! I tend to recommend them to everyone who seems to have similar taste to me. You can understand, I'm sure.
I'm not sure, the Nick Cave song did come up though. It could well be pinched from there. Then again, it is just "o children". So...yeah, not too sure on that one.
How about the Organ? Have you heard them before?

Thanks for the B day wish! and you are a member of a lot of groups!

good luck to you too cause socialism has just left so many good things in its wake obviously forgetting the death toll and ravage to property.

They're a pretty small time indie band from what I've read. Which is a shame, cause their music is brilliant. Here is a review of their EP- A Call to Arms:
http://www.theregoesthefear.com/2008...to-arms-ep.php

Also, when it comes to indie bands, they often seem kinda of elitist to listen to, but a lot of times they don't get super big because they are just "too weird" to be signed by a major label. A prefect example of this is of Montreal, they are pretty much on top of the indie scene here in the US, but can't break out because they are just too odd for the mainstream listener.

EDIT: Oh, Never mind, I miss read you. You like feeling Elitist.

They're mint. I really like them. They certainly have a sound that makes me think of the Smiths, which is a good thing imo. Unfortunately they seem to be a bit hard to get according to my friend (Who is the pirater of all the music I don't pay for. He says its cause their from the uk, and those lot have an obsession with geo-locking stuff on the internet.) so I only have the fallen (cause I bought it on itunes) but this song is another one of my favorites."Under Grey English Skies"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJAy...eature=related
And yeah, Bilan is one sheik bloke.

Looking down, tis clear Bilan is magic. He even linked the same song I did to you in the Music forum. Doesn't really surprise me though, Bilan has impeccable musical taste. (and it was a link from The Fallen. )