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  1. Sheepy
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    You know, if we ever do at this rate. Every time I mention this, people assume I'm crazy, but I feel as if it'll only take a big USSR-esque collapse, I mean for better or worse, of the whole country for anything to actually make any real change around here, and it's basically inevitable but I don't know exactly when that would happen. I mean there are a lot of secessionist movements here, but they're all really nothing but right-wing nuts and nobody really cares to listen to them anyway. It's like we're all waiting for something, but not doing anything about it and it's really painful to watch.
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    Yeah, I kind of figured. Mostly all autogestion is, at least under capitalism as we know it, business as usual but with self-managed exploitation as you said. Like that co-op bakery in Paris; it's nothing really more than a regular capitalist bakery but with sandwiches named after Karl Marx. I mean, there really is a huge difference between having the mode of production under workers control and having exploitative classes lend off the illusion of self-control.

    Stories of workers taking over factories and farms in Asia are always more satisfying to hear about than ones of petit bourgeois folk in Western Europe or North America dividing money amongst themselves while passing out fliers. The cultures are obviously very different and it makes me wonder what it would really take for us to reach the same kind of class consciousness.
  3. Sheepy
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    Yeah, it's pretty disheartening when this is what the American left has been dwindled down to as of late. I mean, the Communist Party of the USA even supports Obama and that's just sad. I just don't really know what's wrong with them or really what to do about it.

    From what I've read on RevLeft, I take it that most leftist from former Yugoslavia are pro-Tito, but I don't know whether if this is from a "former glory" nationalist perspective or a genuine proletarian standpoint. What's your take on that? Was Socialist Yugoslavia really what you would describe as 'socialist'? Just curious.
  4. Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
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    I sent you another invite
  5. Sheepy
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    I have to admit though, I love the title. I actually haven't been up to date with the AFL-CIO, so I'll have to look into that!

    America is pretty crap as always, with the government trying to find more countries to bomb again, but it could be worse. At least people are actually speaking up about it this time, as opposed to when the Iraq War first started. But then again the government never listens anyway, so it'll take a bit more to make a difference.

    So where are you from? How bad is it over there?
  6. Sheepy
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    I came as an ambassador to help the great people at Sheep Station Zero, for it is my calling to do so!
  7. Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
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    OK I sent you the invite. I look foward to seeing you
  8. Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
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    Cool I was hoping you would join us. I think I might need the refuge and I'd hate to not have you in my company
  9. Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
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    Ah, how are you my good old buddy?
  10. synthesis
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    Well, yeah. The point is that most sounds can be at least approximated (but mostly replicated) with just the two vowels. If "at-tack" was spelled "et-tack," how much would the pronunciation change? A little, but in the context of the theory - again, not something I'm advocating - not enough to justify a whole different vowel.
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