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  1. #FF0000
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    people who make diagrams like you do are usually big ol' weirdos whose diagrams don't make sense.

    But yours own and you are great so thanks.
  2. ckaihatsu
    The 'Multi-Tiered System' -- ? Did you read the text included in it?
  3. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    Your diagram of a post capitalist economy looks interesting, but i cant make sense of it
  4. ckaihatsu
    Thanks, thanks very much for that. It's always good to be recognized, and a fair amount of work goes into each one.

    Here's the latest, and here's the index:


    Multi-Tiered System of Productive and Consumptive Zones for a Post-Capitalist Political Economy

    postimage.org/image/ccfl07uy5


    tinyurl.com/ckaihatsu-diagrams-revleft
  5. jookyle
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    I absolutely love your diagrams. Thank for those, they're very useful.
  6. ckaihatsu
    http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.p...&postcount=300


    My overriding concern is that *none* of us can be too prescriptive in the abstract, absent actual, varying conditions.

    Your market socialism model *could* follow quickly after a full-fledged nationalization (socialization), as an additional step of radical reformism. But if conditions allowed we *shouldn't* bother with such half-measure formalism, opting instead to go straight ahead to workers councils and central planning.
  7. Die Neue Zeit
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    I suppose, and I presume here you're referring to market-socialism-only-as-transition. Anyway, yeah.
  8. ckaihatsu
    Well, despite your absolutism on the subject, I'll accept the more-positive side of your comments and just note that I used a 3-D environment / graphics for several of them simply to make use of the three spatial dimensions -- they lend themselves to the depiction of continuums, so I'm able to include three separate and independent -- yet co-existing and complementary -- linear spaces for any treatment.
  9. CommunityBeliever
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    It is awesome that you are creating informational diagrams, I just think that the use of fancy 3D graphics and visual tricks isn't helpful. I sent you a PM explain this in more detail.
  10. ckaihatsu
    (For anyone else reading this that's 'political educational diagrams' in a web search, or tinyurl.com/ckaihatsu.)


    * Fail *, huh -- ??? How decisive of you.

    I somewhat recall our past exchanges on this board, CB, and I know we don't exactly see eye-to-eye.... I hope it will suffice to just say that the diagrams aren't so much for 'conveying information' as much as they're *frameworks* that are meant to *generalize* as much as possible, leaving the *information* up to the reader / user.
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[1] The sun shines down at just the right intensity -- neither too little or too much -- to force an intricate interplay of organic materials animated by the sun's energy. The living processes build up to higher levels of nestedness, interdependence, and complexity. The abundance of available food and source materials -- varying depending on location and era -- allows each organism ample time outside of securing necessities to become increasingly aware and conscious of greater depths of complexity in the external (and internal) world(s). Greater consciousness yields greater abilities and at some point humanity began to procure more food than it could consume in realtime. This development gave rise to a separation of roles in society whereby some could spend more time increasing their awareness while others worked to produce the food for all of society. Those relieved of having to work rationalized themselves as somehow different and better than all other people, and explained their privilege by inventing fictional supernatural beings, or a single supernatural being, who conveniently backed up their reasoning. They consolidated their privileged social position with the use of violent physical force, which the fictional supernatural beings or being said was okay. Meanwhile the rest of humanity has either been working or trying to enjoy their more-or-less similar physical existence as everyone else. Much time and effort, though, is unrecoverably lost due to the existence of those in privileged positions.

[2] I am personally *not* in a privileged position.

[3] Therefore it is in my own best personal interest to co-produce a social world that is relieved of the class division.

[4] Therefore I am a Marxist and active at RevLeft.com.


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