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    thanks for the invite! Hopefully I will be able to add to the discussion!
  2. Grenzer
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    I agree, I don't think something as insignificant to modern struggle as history is worth causing disruptions over. The only thing I worry about is whether those who have a very low threshold for what they would consider to be socialism could have a potentially disastrous road further in the future; but personally I doubt it, I just think that all possibilities should be examined. At the very least, a party could end up with a centre, left, and right wing, but that's probably unavoidable anyway. Personally I think that a mass party would probably organically push peoples' opinions more to the centre, which would be a good thing in the case of Marxist-Leninists.
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    Thanks for the link! It had a lot of great ideas to consider. I am uncertain as to which path I advocate; Immediate democratized media, deprogramming capitalist modes of thinking prior to democratizing media, or deprogtramming capitalist modes of thinking then programming new modes of thinking compatible with the new socialist society. I am inclined towards the second option but I am open to the other two ideas as well. We need more threads like this.
  4. Grenzer
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    Good, I was wondering if you'd stumble into that thread. There are a few of Cockshott's ideas brought up in that thread which I have a lot of issue with, namely the idea that we should uphold all the states that claimed to be socialist as socialist. I don't see how that benefits anyone other than the bourgeoisie. In addition, he has made some other statements that I would consider beyond the pale, such as considering market socialism a valid form of socialism.
  5. Grenzer
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    I didn't know the German-Dutch left fetishized the mass strike. I thought that was something unique to Anarcho-Syndicalists and Luxemburgists.
  6. Grenzer
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    I like a lot of their politics(though not all), but I think some of their organizational strategies doom them to irrelevance. They realize that international(or as you more accurately put it, transnational) organization is critical to success. There is the possibility that a new international and its affiliated parties could come under the sway of one country after a revolution though, just as it happened in the past.

    Pannekoek and Gorter were influenced by Bakunin? What's the story with that?

    On that link you sent me I also noticed a Trotskyist endorsing the support of China as "workers' state". I really think that highlights the strategic bankruptcy of the Degenerated Workers' State doctrine.
  7. Grenzer
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    How is this different on a practical level from the kind of party the ICC proposes?
  8. Grenzer
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    I was going to ask you about that. I saw your thread on trans-nationalism and pan nationalism but I'm not sure I fully understood it.
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    Oh, I forgot to mention that I finally got around to looking into De Leon.. I'm actually impressed. Some people say it's anachronistic, but it seems good to me.
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