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    "do you think Jews should have a separate state in the USA?"
    No, the Jews need a Vanguard, which will only be satisfied with a Jewish state. I personally will never live in Israel, but I'd like it to exist. Why? Because I will have security knowing the Jewish state will defend the Jewish people and their rights on an international level.
    These strawmans are reminiscent of our past discussions...

    "At the time of its creation most were Ashkenazim"
    Source?

    "You can't claim people think of Jews as "racially" inferior when you yourself have said as much about the Palestinians who are apparently "racially" fascist according to you and your friend"
    I remember referring to the PA government, although lying is a trait of anti-semitic losers, so I'm not surprised.

    "That is a place where you belong"
    Do you even know what Stormfront is? Gosh, the sheer stupidity!

    "I demonstrated that the Zionist leaders"
    And I defeated it in the following comment. What is your point?
  2. GallowsBird
    Interesting, I saw that same claim on Stormfront not too long ago.

    A place you belong so I am not surprised you view it shame that all you racists are from different ethnic groups and thus hate each other. Whether or not someone said it on Stormfront doesn't make it less true. In the thread that got you banned I demonstrated that the Zionist leaders (and a large part of the Israeli population) were from the Russian Empire.

    "That is precisely what the Jewish problem amounts to: assimilation or isolation?—and the idea of a Jewish “nationality” is definitely reactionary not only when expounded by its consistent advocates (the Zionists), but likewise on the lips of those who try to combine it with the ideas of Social-Democracy" These are Lenin's words not mine. Lenin didn't agree with "Jewish national self-determination" as he didn't believe in a Jewish nation.
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    Also, Zionism does not equal Jewish right to National Self Determination... That was the same stance of the Soviets as well, when they became the FIRST country to officially recognize the State of Israel. Ehrenburg also made a distinction between the Israeli Bourgeoisie and Israeli Proletariat, and he suggested that the Proletariat of the new state not allow their Bourgeoisie to take control of their country.

    All other people are allowed to have a right to National Self Determination, but not Jews. That's pretty much what you're saying... It really amuses me that you'd call yourself a Marxist-Leninist.

    Anyway, I've been to Israel. Most of the population is Mizrahi Jewish(also known as Arab Jewish). So much for a European invasion, huh?
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    "as they should have to begin with"
    Why? Are Jews naturally Imperialistic?

    "In Lenin's era the party was very Anti-Zionist"
    Actually, they were against Nationalism, which they considered Zionism a form of. That didn't stop Lenin from dealing with Ataturk, who was an ultranationalist.

    "later they supported Israel to weaken Britain's power in the Middle-East and then realised their error."
    Wrong! Ilya Ehrenburg better noted the Soviet stance. I suggest you read that article I set you earlier.

    "Those Jews should have had equal rights with the majority"
    So Jews were supposed to live with equal rights in Palestine, while Arabs controlled their lives? If we apply this to any other area, we'd call it Imperialism. However, it doesn't apply to Jews, as they are untermensch and don't deserve human rights. Right?

    "by settlers from Eastern Europe"
    Interesting, I saw that same claim on Stormfront not too long ago.
  5. bad ideas actualised by alcohol
    This is the last time I respond to you James.
    First of all, Palestine wasn't involved in the “agreement”, and even if they had been. About 70% of the country was given to the Israelians. Your whole support of self-determination is a joke if you support that! Nowadays they aren't living on any agreement because often colonialists steal small portions (Supported by the Army) so about 90% is now stolen, and Palestinians aren't allowed to build up their buildings after attacks.
    Also, if you had actually followed the discussion back then you'd knew that they had actual facts to back up their point.
    The reportinf of MLs is only more proof that you are a treacherous anti-communist. I am disgusted by the fact that you say that you are against dogmatism, but calls anyone who disagrees with your pro-Israel views dogmatic, fool, racist. Of course, that isn't dogmatic.
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    "I don't hate you, I just think your views are idiotic.
    I might be more open, but I think your insults towards Chuncho and Gallows, who I regard as close comrades, are disgusting."
    Disgusted by what? Pointing out how dogmatic a bunch of fools are? That they'd attack Israel simply because everyone on the left does it? These people are children who have lost all free will, and have turned Marxism into a religion full of Categoricals. I highly suggest you review my thread about Marxist Categoricalism.
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    -continued discussion with Negative Creep-
    Even before I was purged for defending the freedom of a group of people, I had begun reporting Marxist-Leninists whom I regarded as drone worshipers of Stalin. As I noted quite plainly, Socialism in One Country is only relevant in certain conditions, and it cannot be used in an environment of Collective Security(as was the case in Albania in 1997.) We differ from Trotskyism since we hold Relativism in accordance with Material Realities, unlike the Liberalistic and anti-Marxist principles of Trotskyism.
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    "The Ottoman built the provinces around towns these Vilayets and Mutasarrifate were the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem (which included Gaza by the way), Syrian Vilayet, Vilayet of Beirut."

    I read a book about Middle East Geographic history a few years ago that defeats this(perhaps I'm mixing up the Mamluk and Ottoman empires). Going off the information you offered me, I was directed to Wikipedia. After checking the Wikipedia map for it, I must say it was pretty bad. For example, they put Rumelia in the wrong area.
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    "Either way it'd still be an Imperialist nation regardless of name."
    The Jewish Right to Self Determination = Imperialism? According to the 1931 Census, there were 175,000 Jews living in Palestine. Are these people, who had lived there for thousands of years, Imperialistic European invaders? And, thanks to the British, it was that very group that was given political authority over the British Mandate. If it wasn't for Israeli Independence, Jordan and Palestine would likely still be ruled by Jews, just like how the Alawites are still in charge of Syria.
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    "Or do you now claim Israel is a Socialist state like the USSR?"
    The Israeli Communist party's line, which was aligned with Moscow, was that the West Bank and Gaza were intrinsic parts of the Jewish state. I, of course, have mixed feeling about that statement, as I see it as Imperialistic, but I cannot disagree with the Israeli Communist party- a party I respect very much.

    "The Israelis killed or chased out the majority of Palestinians for daring to not just lie down and let their land be stolen."
    Bull, those deported held anti-Israeli or anti-Semitic beliefs. Remember, the Jews were in charge of the British Mandate. They had stockpiles of information on individuals, as was customary in an Empire that had no respect for human rights(the British). It is also pretty reasonable that out of the roughly half a million Arabs that lived there, 145,000 were allowed to stay.
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