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    I agree, I want to make the government create cooperatives whom are independently by workers. I only suggest this idea in places where anarchism isn't popular, or where anarchists will be killed off by armymen of the existing government.
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    No the means of revolution change depending on the cricumstances
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    social conditions....
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    depends on the circumstances mate,
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    Hey mate, no problem. Lol at your convo below, I love how some people think the state will just, you know, disappear if we just wanted it to.
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    It would be seperationist movement my friend and the anarchist couldn't stand a chance against the state. Thats why in some movements we must use all the advantages we can steal from the bourgeoisie and use it to the proletariat's advantage. Thats why I'm an Anarchist and a Marxist. I believe both have their pros and cons and can't follow one calls analysis...
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    however if there was 50 anarchists and 50 marxists...I'd side with the anarchists
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    "3. I truly despise the idea that the state can whither away - it is all wrong. The state ceases to exist when there is no more centralised political authority. The state exists or does not exist as the conditions change - and I assume that a stable socialist society would not constantly be overthrowing modes of production and state apparatuses to the point where some state (which shouldn't even exist in a socialist society) whithers away.
    4. Marxism isn't that popular in Pakistan either."

    Thats why I'm kind of a Marxist. I believe that the state must emphasize it's 'withering away'.

    Marxism is mildly popular in Pakistan. Socialism is popular however.
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    By state I mean government. By control I stress Libertarian Syndicalism and cuts on the military infrastructure if we had revolution in a third world country. We'd also give nationalize industry into cooperatives. That is Marxism. Eventually the state will be useless and people would not live in a cycle of market production. They'd live in a pure-communist or Anarchist society. I only advocate this idea in places like Pakistan, where Anarchism isn't popular and social unrest causes the failure of Anarchist praxis to exist.
    I also consider myself a Marxist for my Marxian econmic outlook.
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Generic Marxist → Leninist → Trotskyist → Council Communist → Anarchist
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