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  1. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    I agree very much with your view that the development of the productive forces bring with them new property relations and that until the capitalist institutions become unable to reproduce and expand material wealth, there should be a transition.
    But, do you not think this 'point of no return' is already reached or very near? I definitely do think the productive forces are outgrowing capitalist institutions.
  2. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    This is what i was thinking as well. I wrote a thread here with a graph that i think is relevant to what i want to communicate, namely the time until that "point of no return" is reached. A Comrade of mine Norbert Nelte who is in the ISO wrote a book about this in 2007, and he says that Germany reached this "point of no return" in 2009. He said that then, and the industrial production has still not caught up with the loss made in 2009 and it new data just said that the GDP of Germany just shrank again etc.
    So i guess my question is, what time were you having in mind when you had the idea for a state capitalist transition moving into socialism? Because as it looks to me, the profit motive is becoming increasingly obsolete, a Liberal even said this on t.v. yesterday!
  3. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    Yes, but what i was thinking is, does this developed stage of the productive forces not mean that the "state capitalist" socialist transition will be impossible? I mean, when the rate of profit for the production process is lower than for other sectors of the economy, does this not also create problems in a state capitalist transition?
    Also, since i know Japan has a lot of government debt to keep their economy going, what will happen when the state becomes unable to support the economy, say when lenders stop lending? How would a state capitalist transition be possible in such an instance?
  4. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    I have another question, how long (if socialism were to be implemented within the next ten years, globally) would it take for a communist society to replace it? This might seem rather obtuse a question, but I am wondering whether the end of capital-ist production would mean the productive forces are advanced enough for a communist society to be possible, or if a truly socialist economy would mean the productive forces would regardlessly be ready for communism.
  5. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    Since it seems to me that the Falling Rate of Profit (which i as well see as a historical constant) is an important part of your "New Socialism", i have a question regarding the transition.

    Since my understanding of the falling rate of profit is that there are two, one for the whole economy, and one for the production economy. Since the rate of profit of the production process in 2010 in the USA was 2% and 50% in 1850, don't you think that with "the death shudders of capitalism" (Luxemburg) capitalism would rather have an economic crash contrary to Marx's description of a quite einschlummern of capitalism once the rate of profit specifically of the production process becomes unprofitable for capital?
  6. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    Yes, it was very precise, thanks.
  7. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    Hello, i just read your "Towards a New Socialism; New Preface, 3rd draft" Very interesting and i agree completely with this.
  8. Thanks for the insight!
  9. Comrade Cockshott,
    To what degree do you believe in Bureaucracy during the transitional stage from Capitalism to Socialism? Also in a modern Workers' Democracy?
  10. Workers-Control-Over-Prod
    Hello Paul, i saw a video of you on youtube and i agree completely with what you said about workers participation of management and the transition into a labor voucher socialist planned economy. Really great Comrade, Greetings!
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