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it has been in perspective the entire time, you're the one talking about tony cliff and building proletarian consciousness or whatever the fuck

we're talking about revleft not "the entire left movement."

"freak" as used colloquially is nowhere near as bad a pejorative as "retard." i believe khad already explained why this is.

"Even in the event that such denouncements are in bad taste most mature parties simply accept the well meaning then go into why while it was well meaning in bad taste from the point of view of the party's standpoint that is because as Tony Cliff pointed out you don't bring class consciousness by simply denouncing members of the proletariat you don't agree with and refusing to work with them."

like the multiple members who, with varying degrees of patience, have tried to explain to you why "retarded" is not an acceptable word to use? what is tony cliff's advice for dealing with stubborn dipshits?

are you on fucking meth? jesus christ there is no way "freak" is worse than "retarded" and you were not using it as a proper scientific term but as a pejorative. for fuck's sake. that's all i have to say on this, i'm done with this, you're so far behind you think your first.

science, including terminology, is constantly changing and developmentally delayed is simply the newest and preferred term, as mental retardation once was and cretin, idiot, imbecile, mongolism, etc before it. these changes have all occurred because the term became a pejorative rather than a strictly medical classification and new terms were developed to both remove the pejorative and better describe the condition.

and i'm sure it will be annoying to "print up whole new forms, databases, text books,ect," as it must have been when being gay stopped being a disease and mongoloid, caucasoid and negroid stopped being appropriate or accurate terms, but that's progress. furthermore, i am more inclined to take the side of the parents and caretakers of the developmentally delayed as well as medical professionals rather than a wingnut on the internet who is upset they got called out for using "retarded" as a pejorative.

now you're just being asinine.

you were using it to describe something that had nothing to do with suffering from a generalized disorder, ie using it as a pejorative for something stupid. as i pointed out, your example from "the corporation" is wrong- psychopathy is an adult behavioral disorder, not a form of developmental disability. they are separate categories with different diagnoses. and really i don't think capitalism is a mental disorder, but an economic one.

your example about communism, etc misses the point. the people who deal most frequently with the developmentally disabled/delayed would like to see the word change and the scientific community is beginning to do so. you might as well be arguing to still use blumenbach's "varieties of mankind."

science is gradually shifting away from the term, preferring "intellectual and developmental disability/delay," and outside of the scientific community the rejection of the term is more complete, as i pointed out to you earlier. furthermore you were not using the term as an accurate scientific designation of an intellectual or developmental disability, but in its colloquial, pejorative form.

as for "changing names doesn't help," i'll just point you back to the african-american/nigger example. there's also the fact that the people most directly affected and involved would like to see the word changed, but i am sure you know better than them.

you're the one using prejudiced language and trying to defend it

its not my fault you don't know when to shut the fuck up