Where did Bordiga criticize "democracy"?

Guys, I've read bits and pieces of the Lyons Theses (where he talks about organic centralism), but I want to know where he criticizes both bourgeois democracy ("liberal a priori" or whatever he calls it) and proletarian democracy. Thanks.

The Democratic Principle 1922

http://www.marxists.org/archive/bord...-principle.htm

Devrim

Having read Part V just now (ie, criticism of proletarian democracy), where do you think Bordiga was right in his criticism of proletocracy, and where do you think he was reductionist (ie, wrong)?



[I'm just not sure that Bordiga knew well enough the history of ancient Greek democracy, which was a general principle (ie, a principle with exceptions, but a principle nevertheless) for the Greek ruling class(es).]

Having read Part V just now (ie, criticism of proletarian democracy), where do you think Bordiga was right in his criticism of proletocracy, and where do you think he was reductionist (ie, wrong)?

Jacob, Bordiga makes no comments on 'proletocracy' anywhere.

Devrim

^^^ "Proletarian democracy"? He sure as hell criticizes it in Part V. Where was he right, and where was he wrong?

I would say he was right in saying that for the proletariat 'democracy' cannot be a principle -it is a mechanism used in the process of centralisation, but the mechanism of formal votes is not a reliable measure of clarity or consciousness.

On the other hand, I would say he was wrong to the extent that he tends to theorise hierarchy, since in a healthy process of proletarian centralisation, there is a growing tendency for the collective to take charge of its activities, even though this process necessarily makes use of delegations, commissions, and central organs. Certainly the post-war Bordigist groups tended to caricature his notion of organic centralism, theorising the notion of 'brilliant leaders' and a virtual unmoveable leadership.

I don't think he criticizes "proletarian democracy" in that article. He criticizes democracy as a principle. In fact, in the paragraphs at the beginning he says that there is no difference between the dictatorship of the proletariat and proletarian democracy.

http://en.internationalism.org/ir/116_1903.html

Later on Lenin used the term "democratic centralism" to describe the method of organisation he was advocating, just as later on he was to use the term "workers' democracy" to describe the mode of operation of the soviets. In our view, neither of these terms are very useful, above all because the term democracy ("rule by the people") implies a non-class standpoint. We will have to return to this question at a later date. What is interesting however is that Lenin did not use this term in 1903, and indeed his principal target was precisely the ideology of "democratism" within the workers' movement.

I honestly don't know why guys like Devrim and Entrails don't get my neologism - social proletocracy ("socialist rule of the working class") - as a suitable replacement.