Right-wing extremism and science fiction

  1. Dimentio
    I cannot understand why, but it seems that it is mostly libertarians and neo-nazis who today are fascinated by sci-fi. In the case of the nazis, many of them do actually believe in ancient high-technological subterranean civilisations and abandoned German lunar bases from 1942. The libertarians seem to dominate science fiction litterature today.


    How does it come that there is so hard to find modern progressive sci-fi authors.
  2. ÑóẊîöʼn
    ÑóẊîöʼn
    Try Iain M Banks's Culture novels. Banks is a socialist IIRC and the Culture is basically anarchist.

    I cannot understand why, but it seems that it is mostly libertarians and neo-nazis who today are fascinated by sci-fi.
    Really? Apart from military sci-fi, I haven't seen a whole lot of the right wing in science fiction, or if right-wing elements are portrayed, they are usually shown to be the bad guys.

    Libertarians, certainly. Wasn't High Frontier essentially libertarian? But personally I find outspoken libertarianism in science fiction more annoying than anything else. But I still find it to be quite rare.

    As for neo-nazis, I have yet to see any neo-nazi science fiction. They tend to look toward the past, not the future, as far as I can see.

    What have you been reading?
  3. Jazzratt
    Jazzratt
    I'm fairly thinly read on Sci-Fi but the only "outspoken Libertarianism" I've seen is from people who grabbed the wrong end of the stick with Cyberpunk. Neo-Nazis seem far more interested in fantasy.

    I've noticed that a lot of far future societies that are painted as utopias are usually quite left wing - people have to work less and are pretty equal in terms of how things are distributed. I think this is one of the reasons Technocracy is, unfairly, painted as "science fiction" but some of the less generous amongst the dinosaur left.
  4. Dimentio
    Well, I am living here in Sweden, and most sci-fi people I've encountered have been quite right-wing.
  5. Dr Mindbender
    I cannot understand why, but it seems that it is mostly libertarians and neo-nazis who today are fascinated by sci-fi. In the case of the nazis, many of them do actually believe in ancient high-technological subterranean civilisations and abandoned German lunar bases from 1942. The libertarians seem to dominate science fiction litterature today.


    How does it come that there is so hard to find modern progressive sci-fi authors.
    I dont think its because there have been fewer leftist authors/film-makers per se, its probably because you have spent your life on the western side of the iron curtain so have only been exposed to sci-fi stories that embrace the established status quo. Historically, science fiction has been used as a tool of political propaganda so of course the most successful stories will be the ones where the western powers and right wingers are portrayed as the 'good guys'.

    Here is a 1920's era sci fi movie produced by soviet film makers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL6hG...EEEDCE&index=0

    here is a more recent one
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTxIp...eature=related