What exactly is Anarcho-Communism?

  1. AK
    ...and how does it differ from Communism or plain Anarchism?
  2. revolution inaction
    revolution inaction
  3. AK
  4. Zanthorus
    Zanthorus
    The first person to call themselves an anarcho-communist (Or "community anarchist") was Joseph Dejacque. He was inspired by Proudhon's anti-statism but wasn't so keen on the sexism or the individualism.

    In the IWMA the revolutionary social anarchists didn't like to call themselves "communists" because that was taken up by the "authoritarian" section led by Marx & Engels so they tended to call themselves "revolutionary socialists", "libertarian socialists" or "collectivists". After Bakunin died and the IWMA broke up however some within the anarchist milieu became hostile to the "wages" system proposed by the collectivists and decided to go over to the dark side and hang up the banner "abolition of the wages system". That was when they started calling themselves anarcho-communists. Arguably they based their calling of themselves communists on a misunderstanding of what Marx meant by "wages" and as a corrolary what was meant by "abolition of the wages system".

    For an outline of this controversy from an anarcho-communist perspective see Kropotkin's "The Collectivist Wages System" from the conquest of bread.

    The main differences between "plain communism" (I assume by this you mean Marxist communism) and anarcho-communism would be:

    a) Justification for communism: Historical materialism vs anti-authoritarianism
    b) Different understandings of "abolition of the wages system": Labour credits vs Gift economy
    c) Transition to communism: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs instant transition

    I don't think there is really such a thing as "plain anarchism" besides maybe "anarchism without adjectives" but the latter is individualist bullcrap from the start so calling it "plain anarchism" seems a little off.
  5. revolution inaction
    revolution inaction
    c) Transition to communism: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs instant transition
    I didn't think any anarchists thought we can transit to communism instantly, it obviously takes time to reorganise society, normal we call this period the revolution.
  6. Zanthorus
    Zanthorus
    I didn't think any anarchists thought we can transit to communism instantly, it obviously takes time to reorganise society, normal we call this period the revolution.
    Right, but Marxists from the time of Marx and Engels themselves have posited nationalisation and centralisation into the hands of some form of state as the mode of transition while anarchists tend to see the transitional period as the period where the working class seizes the means of production autonomously. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule regarding Marxists, but I assumed by "plain communism" he meant ortho marxism.
  7. revolution inaction
    revolution inaction
    Right, but Marxists from the time of Marx and Engels themselves have posited nationalisation and centralisation into the hands of some form of state as the mode of transition while anarchists tend to see the transitional period as the period where the working class seizes the means of production autonomously. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule regarding Marxists, but I assumed by "plain communism" he meant ortho marxism.
    yes, i just think we shouldn't say that anarchists see use as going instantly to communism, when that is something invented by maxist as a strawman and not a real idea of anarchists.
  8. AK
    Indeed I did mean orthodox Marxism.
  9. AK
    I think a better thing for Zanthorus to say is:
    c) Transition to communism: Dictatorship of the proletariat vs immediate abolition of the state and the capitalist system
  10. The Man
    The Man
    Plain anarchy IS Anarcho-Communism
  11. Tim Cornelis
    Tim Cornelis
    Plain anarchy IS Anarcho-Communism
    No, it's not. Communist-anarchism is a form of anarchism, not the.
  12. Habash
    Habash
    So what do anarcho-communists think of Marx exactly? I personally agree with Marxist analysis of capital and the concept of maximum efficiency, so I guess that would be agreeing with historical materialism. However, my main motivation for supporting the revolution and the transition to a communist system is the absolute rejection of coercive force and regulation, i.e. government. Thus, I guess I would be an anarcho-communist (although, I always thought it was silly to label myself, and when people ask I just say marxist). So, am I way off?