Illegality?

I doubt we will affiliate, but we are sending someone to the conference.

It's illegal for any American organization to affiliate with an international revolutionary organization. There are ways around that, but formal affiliation is out.

I thought you said mere individual membership was illegal? The pareconists are pushing hard for affiliation (let's see the government crack down if this is indeed illegal ).

There's also the historical precedent set by the original CPUSA and its affiliation to a more radical Comintern than this Fifth Socialist International (as you noted). Then of course there are the Trot groups active in the US and their "internationals."

then let's affiliate. if they try and stop us then it'll just spark the revolution we've been waiting for. if not, then dandy, we're affiliated. COME ON GUYS, BREAK SOME LAWS!!!!!

One should not break the law simply to break the law, especially when there are ways around the law and we
re not sure that the 5th International is worth breaking the law over.

It would be like, smoking pot to break the law, but you hate getting high and like drinking.

I just hope that the party arrives at the correct decision during its convention.

i'm not saying break laws just for the sake of breaking laws, i'm saying don't use these cappy's stupidity as a guideline for your decision making. have no fear. hoka hey!

Given the current "anti-imperialist" direction of "Who's in" and "Who's out" of the new International, perhaps the reticence of the National Committee is justified.

samofshs: word.

Do what you want, regardless of possibly going to jail. There was a page in Rolling Thunder that was great and it just read in huge black font:
YOU WILL GO TO JAIL
Once you realize that you will, one day or another, guilty or not, go to jail, you realize that breaking the law doesn't matter, because 95% of the time, you'll get away with it.

We can't start a revolution legally, so why organize legally?

samofshs: word.

Do what you want, regardless of possibly going to jail. There was a page in Rolling Thunder that was great and it just read in huge black font:
YOU WILL GO TO JAIL
Once you realize that you will, one day or another, guilty or not, go to jail, you realize that breaking the law doesn't matter, because 95% of the time, you'll get away with it.

We can't start a revolution legally, so why organize legally?

i wish this was in a thread so i could thank you!!!

Given the increasing attention the state is paying to the left, and especially the increase in COINTELPRO tactics, it is especially important revolutionaries stay as much on the side of the law as is necessary. They aren't just going after big kahunas. They are taking low hanging fruit as well.

It's stupid to give the state an excuse to imprison you, unless it is absolutely necessary to the project at hand. Yes, revolution is necessarily illegal, but we aren't at that stage yet.