Hi just a short question

  1. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    Hi just a short question:

    How many people here are actual CWI members? What do you think about the RevLeft forum?
  2. Q
    Q
    Quite a few, just among the latest ten users visiting this group 4 or 5 are members.

    We don't have a CWI position on this forum But in my opinion it's a good thing that we have a place where members can discuss, create some horizontal links and discuss with others who are interested in the CWI.
  3. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    Do you have an actual number?

    I'm not a CWI member but I work with CWI (mostly Chinaworker) sometimes.
  4. Lyev
    Lyev
    I'd guess 20-30. Most people just join these kind of groups for discussion or because they're interested. I joined the anarchist group and the Stalinist group simply because I'm interested. I appreciate Revleft hugely as a learning resource. Some people come on here as leftists with very established ideas and positions, having been in the same organisation, or considered themselves in the same ism, for years. Whereas I joined here knowing little about politics and economics in general. I've learnt mostly everything I know about Marxism and such from here, apart from just reading The Socialist etc., but I joined the CWI after discussing it with a member of said organisation on Revleft, about 5 months after I joined Revleft.
  5. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    Ok.

    20 - 30 people is not a lot considering the total number of CWI members and allies around the world. No one associated with the CWI that I actually personally know is a member here on RevLeft.

    I have to say that at the moment I do not have a good opinion of some of the moderators on this forum. I think the majority of posters here are probably not like this, but so far the mods have failed to take my complaints about some member using abusive insults towards me seriously at all, not to mention applying the double standard and penalising me for certain insults which the other member, who threw around similar insults, were not penalised at all.
  6. Q
    Q
    Ok.

    20 - 30 people is not a lot considering the total number of CWI members and allies around the world. No one associated with the CWI that I actually personally know is a member here on RevLeft.
    The CWI doesn't have a policy of pointing everyone to Revleft, make interventions in it, etc. Opinions on the use of webforums in fact wildly differ with a mainly older layer of comrades being opposed whereas younger comrades, who have grown up in the age of the internet and take it for granted, are more positively inclined.

    I have to say that at the moment I do not have a good opinion of some of the moderators on this forum. I think the majority of posters here are probably not like this, but so far the mods have failed to take my complaints about some member using abusive insults towards me seriously at all, not to mention applying the double standard and penalising me for certain insults which the other member, who threw around similar insults, were not penalised at all.
    I'm sorry, but how is this related to the CWI or CWI-members? Are you blaming me that I didn't intervene?
  7. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    I'm sorry, but how is this related to the CWI or CWI-members? Are you blaming me that I didn't intervene?
    I'm not blaming anyone, I don't know why you get such ideas from. I'm just making a point.
  8. Q
    Q
    I'm not blaming anyone, I don't know why you get such ideas from. I'm just making a point.
    I'm just trying to figure out how this is related to the discussion.
  9. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    Well put it this way, I started this thread. The essential purpose of this thread is precisely to discuss RevLeft as a forum.

    Therefore relative to the essential topic of this thread, what I've said is pretty much quite relevant.

    The CWI as a whole cannot have an "official position" on any matters related to an online forum like RevLeft which is not even any kind of actual concrete organisation. But it doesn't mean people cannot talk about RevLeft in a personal capacity.
  10. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    Since you are actually a moderator on RevLeft, I think the mods here should have responded to my complaints against S.Artesian, especially since I've been given a verbal warning for my insults but S.Artesian never got anything for similar insults.

    But I don't want to talk about this explicitly in this thread since this has nothing to do with the fact that you are a CWI member.
  11. Mike Russell
    Mike Russell
    The CWI as a whole cannot have an "official position" on any matters related to an online forum like RevLeft which is not even any kind of actual concrete organisation. But it doesn't mean people cannot talk about RevLeft in a personal capacity.
    I'll just say this. As a member of the CWI (US section), not too many poeple outside of this website talk about this website. I personally am not a big fan of the site because of the massive trolling and point collecting. Also, the CWI understands that verbal discussions, and street level activitys weight more then a discussion on the internet. If you want to know more about the work the CWI is doing, its best to sit down with a comrade and discuss things with us, in person.

    remember, the revolution will not be televised.
  12. Queercommie Girl
    Queercommie Girl
    I'll just say this. As a member of the CWI (US section), not too many poeple outside of this website talk about this website. I personally am not a big fan of the site because of the massive trolling and point collecting. Also, the CWI understands that verbal discussions, and street level activitys weight more then a discussion on the internet. If you want to know more about the work the CWI is doing, its best to sit down with a comrade and discuss things with us, in person.

    remember, the revolution will not be televised.
    I was actually a member of the CWI for a while. However, I can no longer formally join because I'm still partially a Maoist even though I've been influenced by Trotskyism. So I'm just a supporter now.

    I think the CWI is one of the better Trot organisations in the world now because:

    1) It has a more pragmatic approach to political activism rather than dogmatic one, and philosophically I am a pragmatist;

    2) It rejects third-campist state-capitalist Trotskyism and holds that the USSR and PRC were deformed worker's states rather than state-capitalist states, this is more acceptable for me since I don't totally reject Stalin and I'm still partially a Maoist;

    3) It is more active in the Third World than most other Western Trots, having a strong base in Asian countries like Sri Lanka and China, and I'm heavily influenced by Third Worldism;

    4) It is more tolerant of Kautskyist centrism (not reformism) than most Trot tendencies that are "ultra-left", and I've been influenced by Kautsky.
  13. electro_fan
    electro_fan
    i think this forum is good, quite interesting but it seems to me a lot of the posters on here are really young , not that this is a bad thing but i am surprised and a bit concerned to see loads of people supporting stalin etc as i been active in the left for years and dont know anyone who seriously has that point of view, everyone has got the right to their opinion though i guess
  14. electro_fan
    electro_fan
    yeh despite all the criticisms of cwi, as bein nationalistic, the fact that it is really active in sri lanka and other places, shows otherwise
  15. Q
    Q
    yeh despite all the criticisms of cwi, as bein nationalistic, the fact that it is really active in sri lanka and other places, shows otherwise
    While I also disagree that the CWI is explicitly nationalistic, your argument doesn't necessarily make sense. After all, the Comintern was also an international body, but which evolved to become the foreign policy instrument of the USSR and, with the development of "national roads to socialism" programmes, the internationalism of the Comintern was eventually only a reality on paper. Of course in 1943 even this paper tiger was abolished by a penstroke, to please the allied forces and was in 1947 replaced by the much looser Cominform (which again dissolved in 1956...).
  16. electro_fan
    electro_fan
    yeah i was referring to all the criticism that it's had re the involvement with Lindsey and other disputes tbh, they were even accused by some stupid people as being racist!! and i think the cwi is also a lot more centralised than these bodies (because it is smaller etc) so there is also more control over the party line in different countries - although what gets said in the countries differs according to their situation etc - than in these other bodies where it just became international in everything but name, like you said

    and also whether we like it or not i don't think we will evolve to become the foreign policy instrument of anything, at least not in the forseable future, i think global capitalism has such a strong grip that we have to think about how to get there first without worrying about what might be
  17. electro_fan
    electro_fan
    sorry if im not making any sense lol im not always the most articulate person in the world when it comes to these types of discussions