Who do you support?

Connolly - 7th September 2008, 20:15

Which revolutionary socialist organisation do you support, or affiliate yourself with, in Ireland?

If this thread could be stickied it would be good

Connolly - 7th September 2008, 20:24

Id be torn between three of them at the moment, WSM, IRSP and ISN.

Dr Mindbender - 7th September 2008, 22:30

to be honest i'm floating. i was a member of the SWP for a long time but it was dominated by middle class types and i dont think i really fit in.

I considered joining the IRSP for a long time but was put off after reading about their affiliaton with the CRF. If someone could educate me about that issue i'd be grateful though.

Dr Mindbender - 7th September 2008, 22:34

If this thread could be stickied it would be good

Alright then, since you asked so nicely.

done.

Madvillainy - 18th October 2008, 21:47

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]The WSM[/FONT]

Connolly - 20th October 2008, 20:27

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]The WSM[/FONT]

Good stuff

You never voted though...

Oh sorry I forgot, you dont participate in elections. No im only joking, I sympathise alot with the WSM. Even thought about joining.

Madvillainy - 25th October 2008, 21:08

Good stuff

You never voted though...

Oh sorry I forgot, you dont participate in elections. No im only joking, I sympathise alot with the WSM. Even thought about joining.

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Ya I forgot to vote, I'm guessing you voted for the almighty IRPs then.

Do you post on a certain irish republican forum, I think we kinda know each other from there, before I was banned. [/FONT]

Connolly - 26th October 2008, 20:53

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Ya I forgot to vote, I'm guessing you voted for the almighty IRPs then. [/FONT]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Do you post on a certain irish republican forum, I think we kinda know each other from there, before I was banned. [/FONT]

I did vote for the IRPS. Tough choice though when your views dont fit into any existing organisations.

Yes I sometimes go on that forum. Im familiar with your user name aswell.

Are you on P.ie?

Madvillainy - 27th October 2008, 12:21

I did vote for the IRPS. Tough choice though when your views dont fit into any existing organisations.

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Yeah but I'm sure the WSM would be closer to your views than the IRPs.[/FONT]

Yes I sometimes go on that forum. Im familiar with your user name aswell.

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Cool [/FONT]

Are you on P.ie?

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Nah man, couldn't really be assed. I might check it out though, is it any good? [/FONT]

Connolly - 31st October 2008, 02:14

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[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Yeah but I'm sure the WSM would be closer to your views than the IRPs.[/FONT]

Im a republican socialist, but im also a libertarian socialist, and thats the division, which are probably not compatible with either.

Nah man, couldn't really be assed. I might check it out though, is it any good?

Theyv done a social group thing like here (but without the forums yet) and I started a 'radical left' group which is now the third largest on the forum after Fine Gael and 'Pro-Europe' (1 behind), so not bad for the so-called micro-left. Thought you might be on P.ie to join.

Its not too bad. Its good to have a mixture from all the political spectrum for discussion. I used to post here mainly but its kinda 'talking to the converted'. And also, this place is fierce sectarian - considering we all have similar viewpoints. P.ie is actually not so bad considering your talking with people of the complete opposite. Its also more Ireland focused.

Moderation policy is liberal and you can get away with alot.
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Connolly - 31st October 2008, 02:26

to be honest i'm floating. i was a member of the SWP for a long time but it was dominated by middle class types and i dont think i really fit in.

I considered joining the IRSP for a long time but was put off after reading about their affiliaton with the CRF. If someone could educate me about that issue i'd be grateful though.

I was 'with' the SWP for a while. Your right, quite middle class. I nearly got the head torn off me for saying the word democracy in reference to the 'west'.

Im not sure about the CRF myself. There have been alot of autonomous actions by INLA 'splinters' - such as the kidnapping by Dessie O Hare. I would imagine the organisation is quite decentralised and with alot of autonomy given to ASUs so your going to get certain people or groups doing things which are against the wishes of the command structure. This may include drug dealing and other criminality.

The INLA should not be discredited by the actions of a few though, no more so than any other organisation or institution. Bad things will happen, and its more a reflection of the conditions they, and other paramilitary organisations, are forced to work under to maintain a military capability against the oppression of the state(s).

Hessian Peel - 4th January 2009, 16:44

Id be torn between three of them at the moment, WSM, IRSP and ISN.

There are major differences between all 3 of those groups.

And why, may I ask, not Ã©irÃ*gÃ*?

Smalltown Boy - 9th April 2009, 20:47

Communist Party of Ireland here.

Andropov - 15th April 2009, 13:56

IRSP
Saoise Go Deo.

PRC-UTE - 16th April 2009, 07:50

re the CRF. I had a discussion with Ulster about this through PM and he seemed satisfied with the explanation.

the CRF wasn't an INLA front group as it is often described. One INLA member and two non-IRSM members carried out an attack on the pentecostal (I think it was) church. the weapons were supplied by an INLA member to a man who claimed he wanted them to defend against Loyalists. apparently they'd murdered his brother and bragged they'd get him next.

the INLA leadership later condemned the attack. they were unaware of it when it happened.

in that period there were Protestant comrades in the Party and Movement, I couldn't imagine the irps sanctioning attacks against the protestant working class.

obviously it was a completely mental attack and was wrong. the IRSM wasn't involved as an organisation however.

I was informed about what happened through comrades in the movement, but you can also INLA deadly divisions or the IRA a history to conifrm what I wrote above.

Hoggy_RS - 23rd April 2009, 09:53

i am undecided at the moment. I have attended Socialist Party meetings in the past but i am really more of a republican socialist so id have a tendency to Eirigi(though i am not a member). The IRSP would get my full support also.

LeninBalls - 10th June 2009, 12:01

I used to be in the Communist Party of Ireland, but I left figuring they're based in Dublin and I live in the south, and that I'll be joining the Worker's Communist Party of France, in France, when I move next year.

After taking a trip to the Connolly bookstore, I was motivated again to join the CPI, or even the IRSP, but there's really no point seeing I'll be gone in a year.

Jorge Miguel - 17th June 2009, 14:48

IRSP or eirigi.

Seven Stars - 30th August 2009, 02:15

I used to be in the Communist Party of Ireland, but I left figuring they're based in Dublin and I live in the south, and that I'll be joining the Worker's Communist Party of France, in France, when I move next year.

After taking a trip to the Connolly bookstore, I was motivated again to join the CPI, or even the IRSP, but there's really no point seeing I'll be gone in a year.

You should still join the IRSP, we once had a large support base in France, perhaps you can help rebuild it.

Barry - 1st October 2009, 18:16

Socialist Party. Been in it for about 4 years now. Happy with it but i am a supporter of founding a united left organisation within Ireland to fight the ever increasing attacks and cuts on the people

DÃƒÂ³chas - 2nd October 2009, 21:01

what do people think of The People Before Profit Alliance and The Peoples Movement? i havent heard much about them until the lisbon campaigns. the peoples movement describe themselves as feminist and left wing and the people before profit alliance have ex green party members in it, they are headed by richard boyle barret.

any thoughts?

vivapalestina - 6th March 2010, 11:07

what do people think of The People Before Profit Alliance and The Peoples Movement?

Personally i think the idea is admirable, as it shows a lot willingness to work with community groups and not just outright socialists. The PBPA i know for a fact have a lot of CFAD and other anti drug community workers, and more power to them.

For myself, i was a member of the CWI but have left and more towards WSM and ISN

Andropov - 3rd April 2010, 12:44

what do people think of The People Before Profit Alliance and The Peoples Movement? i havent heard much about them until the lisbon campaigns. the peoples movement describe themselves as feminist and left wing and the people before profit alliance have ex green party members in it, they are headed by richard boyle barret.

any thoughts?

The PBPA is really social democrat, Boyd Barret could never be described as a Marxist and anyway it is primarily a SWP front so really I have little time for them but would still hope them all the best in the future.

As for the Peoples Movement it is very much a loose alliance of leftists but I have done alot of work with one of their more prominent members so do have alot of time for them.

Hoggy_RS - 11th April 2010, 21:26

I'm a member of the IRSP now.

CroppyBoy - 13th April 2010, 09:40

IRSP. I think the only genuine (with the possible exception of Eirigi) working class Republican Socialist group. The other left groups tend to disregard the national question.

Gravedigger01 - 13th April 2010, 20:12