The Pre-Militant era

  1. Q
    Q
    I'm currently looking into the era between the WIL in the thirties and the founding of Militant in 1964. Particular questions I have are the role of Ted Grant in the several organisations he was active in in the fourties and fifties (RCP, The Club, RSL, etc) and the exact reasons why Militant exactly split from the reunified Fourth International and why were they the only ones to split away?

    Also, I always wondered if there was a "tree" of all the Trotskyist splits over the years, kinda like this unix three, but for Trots
  2. Louis Pio
    Louis Pio
    and the exact reasons why Militant exactly split from the reunified Fourth International and why were they the only ones to split away?
    I think Ted explained it in this if you scroll down to the relevant parts http://www.marxist.com/program-inter...-ted-grant.htm
    and in "History Of British Trotskyism" if you have that

    Im not sure about the rest, cause their ain't many alive one can ask about those things. But you might find some answers through this exellent journal http://www.revolutionary-history.co.uk/
  3. Q
    Q
    I think Ted explained it in this if you scroll down to the relevant parts http://www.marxist.com/program-inter...-ted-grant.htm
    and in "History Of British Trotskyism" if you have that

    Im not sure about the rest, cause their ain't many alive one can ask about those things. But you might find some answers through this exellent journal http://www.revolutionary-history.co.uk/
    Ok, thank you. I guess The Unbroken Thread is also a good book for this.
  4. RedDawn
    RedDawn
    here is a tree of US organizations, if this is helpful:

    http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/trees/ustree.htm
  5. Q
    Q
    here is a tree of US organizations, if this is helpful:

    http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/trees/ustree.htm
    Hmm, could you tell me a bit more on Labor's Militant Voice and the Left Party? Why did they split or got expelled?
  6. Louis Pio
    Louis Pio
    Ok, thank you. I guess The Unbroken Thread is also a good book for this.
    Yes The Unbroken Thread is also a good choice, unfortunately it isn't his complete writings, but those will be published at some point
  7. leveller
    leveller
    Callincos wrote a book on Troskyism for the Open University that has Trotskyist family tree in it,

    for specific information i think the only major books that havent been mentioned are the ones by bornstein and richardson one called War and the international and the other is called against the stream.

    Cliff also wrote a book towards the end of his life called Trotskyism after Trotsky.

    That should help you in your learnings comrade.

    as this will i hope

    The Workers Interational League Married the Revolutionary Socialist League in 1944 and they called themselves THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY.

    In 1948 the RCP ceased to exist and Became the Club (featuring Cliff, Grant And Healy)

    Grant Split to for the Revolutionary Socialist League which went deep entry in the Labour party and became Militant

    Cliff Split in 1951 refusing to support north koreans and formed the socialist review group, that became the International Socialists, sometime in the 70s they picked up a trotskyist faction that they later expelled they became Workers Power.
    The IS became the SWP, and expelled some more people, notables are Red Action, The Revolutionary Democratic Group, and the International Socialist Group (now Socialist Resistance) and the RCP who used to publish a mag called Living Marxism before dissapearing presumed dead?

    Gerry Healy went on to form the Workers Revolutionary Party which exploded in scandal in 1985, a rump continues to publish a daily paper called newsline - but heaven knows where the money for that comes from, as it sells much less than the morning star every day and doesnt have CPB resources.
  8. blake 3:17
    blake 3:17
    There's a book on Militant that went through a few editions in the 80s when they were at there height. The culture of the group sounds very very different than some of the bohemianism that the IMG or IS were closer.

    I enjoyed Tony Cliff's memoirs. I don't remember much on Grant, but it does give a sense of the flavour of the late 40s to late 50s.

    I suppose their basic strategy was to make the Labour Party the vehicle for The United Front, whereas Trotskyist groups were more oriented to social movements or being simply sectarian.
  9. Louis Pio
    Louis Pio
    Grant Split to for the Revolutionary Socialist League which went deep entry in the Labour party and became Militant
    I think that is using the term "deep entrism" to loosely.