Maoist Comrades; What is your critique of Stalin?

  1. Questionable
    Questionable
    I got removed from the MLM group so I have no choice but to post this here. I don't want to post it in the main forum because it will get flooded with trolling.

    Anyway, what is the Maoist view on Stalin? I keep reading posts talking about how he didn't trust the masses enough or he was too technocratic, but Maoists will still say he was good for the revolution. Could someone elaborate?
  2. DDR
    DDR
    He's over all regarded in good light, he industrialized the USSR (he took a country from the plwo to the atom bomb), he made good contributions to theory, he helped the revolutions wherever he could, etc.

    The critic es about colective property vs. socialized property, that each revolution is diferent from each other (but it's mandatory the need of a strong party to lead it), that's historically imposible to achieve socialism by peaceful ways (Stalin agues that in underdeveloped countries it could be posible). The critic in depth is here:

    http://www.marx2mao.net/Mao/CSE58.html
  3. Questionable
    Questionable
    Thanks.

    Is there a difference between Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought and what people call plain "Maoism"? I've seen some Maoists act as if they're the same thing but others draw a distinction.
  4. Khalid
    Khalid
    Here's a collection Stalin-related quotations by Mao: Mao's Evaluations of Stalin
  5. GallowsBird
    GallowsBird
    Thanks.

    Is there a difference between Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought and what people call plain "Maoism"? I've seen some Maoists act as if they're the same thing but others draw a distinction.
    No. "Maoist" is to Marxist-Leninism-Maoism as "Hoxhaists" is to Marxist-Leninists who follow the Albanian line, or as "Stalinist" is to Marxism-Leninism although Maoism is less of an insult generally.

    Actually most M-Ls that make a distinction have been followers of Hoxha who think of it as a sort in-between stage between Marxism-Leninism and what they see as completely revisionist "Maoism". This is wrong of course in my opinion.

    I think some revisionists who claim to be Maoist have separated them also however they are revisionists and use Maoism in the same way Khrushchev and Brezhnev called themselves Marxist-Leninists. AKA they are not "Maoists".
  6. bad ideas actualised by alcohol
    bad ideas actualised by alcohol
    It is not true that there is a distinction made by “Hoxhaists”.
    I recently got attacked by someone for saying that there was not much of a difference, if any, between Mao-Zedong thought and Maoism.
    The only explanation I've heard was when I was in street and had a conversation with a guy who was selling newspapers.
    He said that their party followed Mao-Zedong Thought, not his actions.
    I don't know if that is the distinction that is usually made by Maoists or people who follow Mao-Zedong Thought, but so far I haven't heard another yet.
  7. GallowsBird
    GallowsBird
    It is not true that there is a distinction made by “Hoxhaists”.
    Someone did on the M-L board we administrate.

    I recently got attacked by someone for saying that there was not much of a difference, if any, between Mao-Zedong thought and Maoism.
    The only explanation I've heard was when I was in street and had a conversation with a guy who was selling newspapers.
    He said that their party followed Mao-Zedong Thought, not his actions.
    I don't know if that is the distinction that is usually made by Maoists or people who follow Mao-Zedong Thought, but so far I haven't heard another yet.
    Probably just a revisionist or very confused. "Mao-Zedong Thought" is just Marxiism-Leninism-Maoism or Maoism (they are all the same)... sometimes M-L-M has been called Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Zedong Thought which, in English, I hate as it is unwieldy.
  8. bad ideas actualised by alcohol
    bad ideas actualised by alcohol
    Someone did on the M-L board we administrate.



    Probably just a revisionist or very confused. "Mao-Zedong Thought" is just Marxiism-Leninism-Maoism or Maoism (they are all the same)... sometimes M-L-M has been called Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Zedong Thought which, in English, I hate as it is unwieldy.
    Very confused or revisionist?
    So, it's not about his politics but about in what way he puts Mao in his term for his politics.

    I think that is the wrong approach.
  9. GallowsBird
    GallowsBird
    Very confused or revisionist?
    So, it's not about his politics but about in what way he puts Mao in his term for his politics.

    I think that is the wrong approach.
    If his politics are OK then he is very confused! If they aren't then it is likely he is a member or supporter of one of those revisionist organisations that call themselves "Maoist"... which aren't particularly rare sadly.