Why,how,who?

Never mind..

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M-L group chit-chat

Because. They just did. Them.

Da Fok?

I agree. What the fuck is going on in this discussion?

Indeed; this is a hypothetical question in need of answering. or... something...

The answer is obvious.

It's a sofa!

More like an armchair... or a forklift.

Or even an armchair on a forklift...


Or a forklift on an armchair. I always mix those up.

Da fOK?

Fokda... maybe something in the tongue of my Gaelic ancestors... who knows.

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The Biting Pear of Salamanca!

Future generations will look back after the revolution to a humble website where communists everywhere were not afraid to speak their minds...then they will find this and be like WTF?

Actually they'll be "WTF?" at all the internet tendencies like Anarcho-Technocracy, DNZism, Trotskyist-Maoism, Titoism, Anarcho-Homosexualism, Anarcho-Veganism, Anarcho-Feminism, Anarcho-Trotskyism, Anarcho-Titoism, Syndicalist Titoism, Gay Titoism, Gay Trotskyist Titoism, and "hipster communism."

Less informed archaeologists will also assume that the whole Communist movement from 2003-20xx was made up of left-communists, anarcho-communists and Tito-loving Trots.

True there.

They'd also dig up Garden Gnomes from excavations of houses and conclude that they are household deities.

They'll also think everyone was so confused they had to go "da fok" at everything.

I think its time for me to explain why i opened this thread:

I wanted to ask the following questions:

Why did you become a ML?

How did you become a ML?

Who's works or deeds had the greatest impact on you?

I became an M-L because I feel it is the best system to deal with the condition of the global proletariat. I feel it can be succesfully adapted to account for various material conditions.

I read up on the subjects and I and my comrade and brother El Chuncho sort of influenced each other's views (which still have some differences but we mostly agree obviously hence we are both M-Ls) through sharing (true commies) our knowledge and the various writings we had or could find.

The greatest is Marx himself but also the writings of Lenin and Stalin. I then looked into the writings and speeches of Enver Hoxha, Mao Zedong, Harry Haywood et al to try to get the opinions from different strands of M-L thought. I know already about Trotskyism and I looked into the other revisionists and found their revisions to be unsatisfactory and arguably dangerous to the Socialist movement. I have always found Left-Communism and Anarchism to be fairly ridiculous ideologies.

I originally called myself an M-L when I was 11 because I didn't know what it was. I was a tankie till I was 12, when I was a trot, but still self-described as an M-L because I still didn't know what it was. I then saw the practical inadequacies of Trotskyism so, about a month after joining revleft, I became an actual M-L. Marxist-Leninism seems like the most scientific method of achieving communism to me. So that's the why & the how.

I think my biggest influence has to be, obviously, Marx, but in terms of Marxist-Leninism specifically (as opposed to comunism in general), my biggest influence is The State and Revolution by Lenin. That's what kind of made me an M-L. As I said, it was also a lot of what I read on Revleft. I seem to remember one of Zenga Zenga's posts on how many Stalin may have killed being significant.

I become an M-L due to similar reasons to GallowsBird and Cossack. It just seem to be the most likely form of communism in the world. Trotskyism is too utopian and liberal, leftcommunism is pathetic and insignificant.

I used to be more of a pan-leftist. When in college I considered Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky to all be important revolutionaries regardless of the ''Stalinist vs Trotskyist'' feud. Though Trotsky does get some credit due to his organization of the Red Army, his views on ''continual revolution'', opposition to communism in one country (merely a stage of universal communism) and all his liberal-leaning views just started to really, really seem naive and unhelpful so I completely chucked him out and just considered Lenin and Stalin to be the ''big two'' revolutionaries in Russia. I was not a M-L in name until I got even more active in left-wing politics, before that I just respected Stalin as a wise (but, admittedly, a little flawed in some regards) leader but simply labelled myself as a ''Communist'' or ''Marxist''.

wbu, Omsk?

Great-great-grandad was an anarchist, then turned ML, his son was a ML for much part of his life, the same for his son, in turn his own son, my father, still is an Anarchist. My interest in anarchism was very brief, but it started my interest in studying history and revolutionary politics by my own. I briefly flirted with Left-Communism and Trotskyism, but they were dropped because they didn't seen to actually have unity in theory and practice. In the end, Marxism-Leninism seemed to be the only really coherent revolutionary line, I never really sympathised much with the Soviet Union post-Stalin, always sided with Mao and China. Finnally Enver Hoxha's criticism of Mao, and specifically of the Cultural Revolution, which I was a stauch defender, was the final step in my ideological maturation. Untill very recently I was rather confused about some practical political questions, but all of them ended up being aswered sooner or later.

I can't say that I have one work that influenced me the most, but some of Engels' works like Anti-Duhring and Utopic and Scientific Socialism are my favourites.

I became an ML after reading enough of the works of Marx, Engels, and Lenin and reading arguments from ML comrades on revleft and from reading about the histories of the Paris Commune and Soviet Union. Actually, George Orwell's memoir, The Road to Wigan Pier, made some key arguments that convinced me that capitalism is bad and socialism (whatever that means) is the necessary course for society in the future. My understanding of socialism is very "Orwellian", though. But he made me want to read Marx and I read a bunch of shorter works by Marx and Engels that all seemed so correct to me in so many ways. Their ideology was so calculated and speaked to me because I was already atheist and far enough left wing and accepting it wasn't that difficult for me. They also used so many examples from history mixed with a scientific, atheistic method, and I totally agreed with them and thought they were geniuses. I thought Lenin seemed like the most logical next step and it all branched out from there.

I just read a lot of different interpretations of Marxism and found Lenin's to be the most correct. Also, what spoke to me most was that he wasn't so bogged down in theory that he didn't do anything. He actually went out there and helped lead and took actual action, which was materialist and revolutionary, which were what I found to be very important to Marxism and actually bringing about our ideas.

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Kim Il Sung, and every single proletarian who fought and died and struggled for this ultimate dream and goal. All of the soldiers, intellectuals, leaders, workers, peasants, and slaves who revolted against the powers that be and said to the world "We will not stand for this!" It wasn't just enough to read the works of those people, when I saw pictures and film and read about the struggles of all of these toiling, exploited, and oppressed masses of the world standing up and saying that this is not the end of society, that we actually can, must, and will move forward to a society that is based on need, fairness, progress, and science, I was inspired. And I am still inspired when I read about all the uprsings, revolts, rebellions, and revolutions of those people throughout history and throughout the world.