Engels and Lenin: Critique of the Erfurt Programme

  1. Random Precision
    The Erfurt Program of 1891 by Karl Kautsky

    In 1891 Engels sent a letter to Karl Kautsky, detailing his criticisms of the latter's draft program for the German Social-Democrats, which was adopted at the Erfurt Congress. He paid special attention to the reformist trend that was emerging in the SPD even then:

    The political demands of the draft have one great fault. It lacks precisely what should have been said. If all the 10 demands were granted we should indeed have more diverse means of achieving our main political aim, but the aim itself would in no wise have been achieved. As regards the rights being granted to the people and their representatives, the imperial constitution is, strictly speaking, a copy of the Prussian constitution of 1850, a constitution whose articles are extremely reactionary and give the government all the real power, while the chambers are not even allowed to reject taxes; a constitution, which proved during the period of the conflict that the government could do anything it liked with it. The rights of the Reichstag are the same as those of the Prussian chamber and this is why Liebknecht called this Reichstag the fig-leaf of absolutism. It is an obvious absurdity to wish “to transform all the instruments of labour into common property” on the basis of this constitution and the system of small states sanctioned by it, on the basis of the “union” between Prussia and Reuss-Greiz-Schleiz-Lobenstein, in which one has as many square miles as the other has square inches.
    And opportunism:

    To touch on that is dangerous, however. Nevertheless, somehow or other, the thing has to be attacked. How necessary this is is shown precisely at the present time by opportunism, which is gaining ground in a large section of the Social-Democratic press. Fearing a renewal of the Anti-Socialist Law, or recalling all manner of over-hasty pronouncements made during the reign of that law, they now want the party to find the present legal order in Germany adequate for putting through all party demands by peaceful means. These are attempts to convince oneself and the party that “present-day society is developing towards socialism” without asking oneself whether it does not thereby just as necessarily outgrow the old social order and whether it will not have to burst this old shell by force, as a crab breaks its shell, and also whether in Germany, in addition, it will not have to smash the fetters of the still semi-absolutist, and moreover indescribably confused political order. One can conceive that the old society may develop peacefully into the new one in countries where the representatives of the people concentrate all power in their hands, where, if one has the support of the majority of the people, one can do as one sees fit in a constitutional way: in democratic republics such as France and the U.S.A., in monarchies such as Britain, where the imminent abdication of the dynasty in return for financial compensation is discussed in the press daily and where this dynasty is powerless against the people. But in Germany where the government is almost omnipotent and the Reichstag and all other representative bodies have no real power, to advocate such a thing in Germany, when, moreover, there is no need to do so, means removing the fig-leaf from absolutism and becoming oneself a screen for its nakedness.

    In the long run such a policy can only lead one’s own party astray. They push general, abstract political questions into the foreground, thereby concealing the immediate concrete questions, which at the moment of the first great events, the first political crisis automatically pose themselves. What can result from this except that at the decisive moment the party suddenly proves helpless and that uncertainty and discord on the most decisive issues reign in it because these issues have never been discussed? Must there be a repetition of what happened with protective tariffs, which were declared to be a matter of concern only to the bourgeoisie, not affecting the interests of the workers in the least, that is, a matter on which everyone could vote as he wished? Are not many people now going to the opposite extreme and are they not, in contrast to the bourgeoisie, who have become addicted to protective tariffs, rehashing the economic distortions of Cobden and Bright and preaching them as the purest socialism — the purest Manchesterism? This forgetting of the great, the principal considerations for the momentary interests of the day, this struggling and striving for the success of the moment regardless of later consequences, this sacrifice of the future of the movement for its present, may be “honestly” meant, but it is and remains opportunism, and “honest” opportunism is perhaps the most dangerous of all!
    Critique of the Draft Social-Democratic Program

    25 years later, with Kautsky having become a fully fledged "renegade", Lenin went back to address the Erfurt Program in his pamphlet The State and Revolution: http://www.marxists.org/archive/leni...ev/ch04.htm#s4

    You'll have to read that for yourselves, I'm too lazy to quote from it, and it mostly rests on Engels' critique again.

    Thoughts?

    Countdown until Jacob Richter finds this thread: 3...2...1
  2. Die Neue Zeit
    Die Neue Zeit
    ^^^ I have my fair share of criticisms of Kautsky, including his devastatingly reductionist attempt at being the first to transform Marxism into something that has a "complete, integral world-outlook" ("Internal" challenges for revolutionary Marxism).

    I also read, just now, that fourth chapter of "State and Revolution." However, not once did Lenin voice criticism of any sort towards the "merger" concept, which wasn't mentioned in the reformist program itself at all! You should note that, in my "Merge Marxism..." thread, I am actually quoting Kautsky's commentary on that program ("The Class Struggle"), and even then I'm focusing on that all-important "merger" concept.

    Having said myself that the program itself is reformist, "we now return to our regularly scheduled program" (pun intended).
  3. Noa Rodman
    Noa Rodman
    Engels didn't send his critique to Kautsky:
    http://libcom.org/library/correction...s-karl-kautsky

    Btw, nobody has thought deeply about the backgrounds details which I added there (e.g. the fact of how horribly Engels's critique was appropriated in Spain by Caballero).
  4. Die Neue Zeit
    Die Neue Zeit
    The "democratic republic" had different meanings at different times, no?
  5. Noa Rodman
    Noa Rodman
    I think Macnair critiqued Engels. The fact that Engels's critique was used to justify PSOE participation in government is not entirely illogical. He writes after all: "One can conceive that the old society may develop peacefully into the new one in countries where the representatives of the people concentrate all power in their hands, where, if one has the support of the majority of the people, one can do as one sees fit in a constitutional way: in democratic republics such as France and the U.S.A., in monarchies such as Britain, where the imminent abdication of the dynasty in return for financial compensation is discussed in the press daily and where this dynasty is powerless against the people."
    This was also shared by Marx in regards to universal suffrage. And it is noticeable how Kautsky (in the 1933 article) does not respond to Caballero's political use of the Engels critique. Kautsky the renegade himself also didn't have a problem with republishing Engels's critique.
  6. Die Neue Zeit
    Die Neue Zeit
    Yes, the part about "democratic republics such as France and the USA," where Macnair goes against that and posits instead the reality of rule-of-law constitutionalism. However, didn't Engels criticize Blanc and various other French "socialists" for participating in coalition governments even in a "democratic republic"?
  7. Noa Rodman
    Noa Rodman
    Well Rodbertus and state/monarchist socialists like him did point out with glee how the democratic republic in France didn't give worker power. So I don't think Engels (and Marx) were naive or unaware of the limits (as if only we in the 20th century could realize that; and I quoted to you once how W Liebknecht was against the illusion of universal suffrage; I think you can find back in the 1860s Engels even critiquing Liebknecht for claiming use of elections/parliament is merely for propaganda).
    In his Erfurt critique Engels writes "It would be inconceivable for our best people to become ministers under an emperor, as [Johannes von] Miquel." which could allow Caballero to interpret Engels in the way he did, i.e. that it would be not inconceivable in a democratic republic. The opponent of government participation, Julian Besteiro based himself on Kautsky's reasoning as put forth in Road to power, so even rejection of Engels(-Marx) "naive" belief, is not a problem for a social-democrat. In the autobiography of Emile Vandervelde you find the same recognition of the limits of government participation (and of course in Caballero, the "Spanish Lenin"!). In other words criticizing Engels doesn't advance us beyond ordinary (post-war) social-democratic standpoint.

    In 1891 someone from Vorwarts inserted in Kautsky's draft the term of "reactionary mass" and Engels was very much against (as was Kautsky; he refers back to this episode in his debate during the war with the lefts, like Radek): http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx...s/91_10_14.htm
    Kautsky spoke of reactionary mass in Road to power only in a specific context.