Technocracy -- your position

  1. Sentinel
    Sentinel
    So, I thought this kind of poll would come handy as evidence of the actual percentage of technocrats in the midst of our group (the more pro-technology members of RevLeft), the next time we hear the words 'technocratic witch hunt' being uttered. So, what's your position on technocracy? Vote!

    Personally I voted Technocracy sympathiser -- I am influenced by technocracy, sympathise with it and fins it interesting, but do not consider myself one, neither am I a member of any technocrat orgs. I am first and foremost an anarcho-syndicalist and transhumanist.
  2. ÑóẊîöʼn
    ÑóẊîöʼn
    Consider me a sympathiser. I find the ideas behind technocracy fascinating, but I feel I lack the knowledge to fully support them, and I am not a member of any technocratic organisations.
  3. RedAnarchist
    RedAnarchist
    Consider me a sympathiser. I find the ideas behind technocracy fascinating, but I feel I lack the knowledge to fully support them, and I am not a member of any technocratic organisations.
    Same here.
  4. Cult of Reason
    Cult of Reason
    I consider myself an Anarchist Communist Technocrat, in that I believe that after the Anarchist Communist revolution it will be possible to have a democratic decision to construct a Technate and to adopt Technocratic methods, particularly Energy Accounting. This Anarchist Technocracy would have a few organisational differences to the orthodox sort, however.
  5. Jazzratt
    Jazzratt
    Technocrat.
  6. piet11111
    piet11111
    sympathizer i see it as a system that has a lot of potential but i am unsure of how it will be if its implemented.
  7. Bright Banana Beard
    Bright Banana Beard
    sympathizer too, I accident clicked curious because of this wheel mouse.
  8. Sentinel
    Sentinel
    I made this poll anonymous, but it would be interesting to hear the arguments of the person (I have my suspicions ) who voted 'opposed to technocracy'.

    On what grounds are you opposed to it?

    Is there a rational reason for it, or is it just the evil word 'techno' in the name?

    I'm not a technocrat at least yet, just a sympathiser, so any arguments against it from supposedly pro-technology members would be very interesting to hear.
  9. INDK
    INDK
    A Technocrat. I believe Socialism and Technocracy are inseperable concepts.
  10. Raúl Duke
    Raúl Duke
    I'm technocracy-curious...although somewhat a sympathizer.
  11. Colonello Buendia
    Colonello Buendia
    same as Johnny Darko, I think it's a very interesting Idea and am in agreement with the basic concepts, however I lack the knowledge to be a fully blown technocrat
  12. Le Libérer
    Le Libérer
    I'm curious as well, I have researched the subject. I would be curious in seeing a model study too.
  13. Dimentio
    How many of the users here have Skype?
  14. Raúl Duke
    Raúl Duke
    I have skype (brand new and no one of my friends use it...I plan to use it for chatting instead of calling)....why you ask?

    Who voted opposed?
  15. Dimentio
    Because N.E.T, the technocratic organisation which I am lucky enough to be a member of, uses to hold skype conferences which are open to the general public to participate in.

    There, everyone who are curious could ask their questions.
  16. chimx
    chimx
    Consider me a sympathiser. I find the ideas behind technocracy fascinating, but I feel I lack the knowledge to fully support them, and I am not a member of any technocratic organisations.
    ^ This, but I put techno-curious down.
  17. Sentinel
    Sentinel
    Who voted opposed?
    Yeah, it's been bugging me as well. The usual criticism technocracy receives on Revleft comes from anti-technology members who consider technocracy to be merely some extreme form of technology advocacy. Therefore criticism from pro-technology, progressive enough members to have joined the HPG would be something new, and could lead to potentially constructive discussions.

    Because, this is meant to be a serious discussion group, members are meant to vote seriously and justify their votes with arguments. In other words, this is not chit-chat where you vote for the funniest option in poll. Perhaps we should just make all polls publice from here on, to avoid that kind of thing.
  18. Cult of Reason
    Cult of Reason
    I have skype, though I have not used it for ages.
  19. Dimentio
    Yeah, it's been bugging me as well. The usual criticism technocracy receives on Revleft comes from anti-technology members who consider technocracy to be merely some extreme form of technology advocacy. Therefore criticism from pro-technology, progressive enough members to have joined the HPG would be something new, and could lead to potentially constructive discussions.

    Because, this is meant to be a serious discussion group, members are meant to vote seriously and justify their votes with arguments. In other words, this is not chit-chat where you vote for the funniest option in poll. Perhaps we should just make all polls publice from here on, to avoid that kind of thing.
    Well, one of the misconceptions about our design is that we want to put all power in the hands of bureaucrats and "experts", which of course is not true.
  20. Schrödinger's Cat
    [FONT=Arial]I'm a technocrat. [/FONT]
  21. Dimentio
    I am quite obviously a technocrat, and a member of the N.E.T, the Network of European Technocrats.

  22. Dr Mindbender
    if my understanding of the definition of technocracy is correct, then i am one.
  23. al8
    Sympathiser, since I am not (yet) a well-grounded advocate.
  24. Enragé
    Enragé
    Opposed, but i must admit i know very little.

    But, looking at the word, Technocracy -> rule of technology.

    No thanks :P I think technology, at least as it exists today, should be diminished rather than extended, since technology mostly divides human beings, rather than unites them. Notable exception ofcourse the internet.
  25. Sentinel
    Sentinel
    But, looking at the word, Technocracy -> rule of technology.
    Actually, it means rule by the skilled -- over technology (not human beings)

    No thanks :P I think technology, at least as it exists today, should be diminished rather than extended, since technology mostly divides human beings, rather than unites them. Notable exception ofcourse the internet.
    Did you, by any chance, happen to read the group self-introduction or the guidelines before applying?

    Do you:

    - Recognise the existence of anthropocentrism and biocentrism as two opposed paradigms, support and promote anthropocentrism and oppose biocentrism

    - Support and advocate increased scientific research and technological progress, oppose any attempts to hinder/regress these

    - Advocate a secular society and the promotion of atheism, oppose organised religion and defend the right of every child to a secular education
  26. Dimentio
    Opposed, but i must admit i know very little.

    But, looking at the word, Technocracy -> rule of technology.

    No thanks :P I think technology, at least as it exists today, should be diminished rather than extended, since technology mostly divides human beings, rather than unites them. Notable exception ofcourse the internet.
    Hello friend. Technocracy does not mean rule of technology, but rather a government over machinery rather than people.

    www.technocracynet.eu

    And I do not agree that technology should be diminished. It is voluntary whether you want to hang out or something. People should not be forced to live in conditions where they are forced to rely on each-other.
  27. Vanguard1917
    Actually, it means rule by the skilled -- over technology (not human beings)
    Through their rule 'over technology', wouldn't these 'skilled' people be ruling (however indirectly) over human society too? Is the application of technology just a simple technical question best left to technical experts, or is it in fact a social question which needs to be decided upon socially by the people themselves?
  28. Yazman
    Yazman
    Consider me a sympathiser. I find the ideas behind technocracy fascinating, but I feel I lack the knowledge to fully support them, and I am not a member of any technocratic organisations.
    I am pretty much the same as Noxion here.
  29. Dimentio
    Through their rule 'over technology', wouldn't these 'skilled' people be ruling (however indirectly) over human society too? Is the application of technology just a simple technical question best left to technical experts, or is it in fact a social question which needs to be decided upon socially by the people themselves?
    We are not talking a bureaucracy here, or a vanguard party, but rather all the working people in technical and social fields in the technate. And a person won't have responsibility over everything technical, just the areas that she is educated in.
  30. Vanguard1917
    And a person won't have responsibility over everything technical, just the areas that she is educated in.
    But my point is that you're seeing questions of technology in very narrow technical terms - when they actually need to be seen in wider social terms. From your perspective, the way in which a society should develop - because technology is in many ways pretty central to society's development - should be decided by technical experts.

    In my view, all social questions (remember, technology is a social question) need to be answered by society itself. Socialism, in order for it to be a more progressive social system than capitalism, relies on the conscious decision-making of the workers' themselves, in all spheres of society.
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