War crimes and ethnic clensing in Finland at 1918.

  1. 4kmrx
    4kmrx
    Some discussion over this subject. Any revolution or civil war are dirty bussiness but these issues are still after 90 years left un adressed. In chaotic state of lawlessness after civil war end (and some incidents duiring it) there were many incidents fueled by hysterical fear of russian by white side in which any civilian or military personell who spoke russian were shot instantly. It did not matter if they were white or red, soldiers or civilians, lithuenians, poles, italians or greeks if captured whit known knowledge of russian language they were shot. Usually whit out trial.

    Listing of known of incident:
    (Going to do some checking but any comrades whit knowledge feel free contrinute)
  2. Frank Little
    italialaisista ja kreikkalaisista.. itse muistan lukeneeni vain yhdestä italialaisest, joka meinattiin ampua kun meni möläyttämään jotain venäjäks, mutta taidettiin pelastaa viime hetkellä..
  3. 4kmrx
    4kmrx
    italialaisista ja kreikkalaisista.. itse muistan lukeneeni vain yhdestä italialaisest, joka meinattiin ampua kun meni möläyttämään jotain venäjäks, mutta taidettiin pelastaa viime hetkellä..
    Thats one known incident and known only bechose that italian reporter was only nearly executed. If not rescued we propably would not know about that incident at all. These acts were clearly perpetrated by organisation or affiliation that clearly knew that even duiring that time that they their action were illegal and they needed to cover their tracks. Infamous "1, 2, 3" criterion was widely in used and if person could not spoke those numbers whit out accent he or she was done for.
  4. 4kmrx
    4kmrx
    Not quite incident but more about troops and personnel certainly participating in those activities.Hans Kalm and troops under him. Man is buried in Jyväskylä Seppälä cemetary (if visiting that part in need a good place to urinate)
  5. 4kmrx
    4kmrx
    In aftermath of battle for Vyborg (24 to 29 of april in 1918) 360 to 420 foreigners were executed most of them were incidentally officers still loyall to tsar but amongs them civilians including women and children were executed. Among other nationalities executed beside russians were 23 poles, 2 tatars, 2 italians (<- since there were talk about these earlier), 3 estonians, 2 jewish and 1 german.

    Troops most resposible for ethnic clensing and lootting were Kajaanin sissirykmentti which is difficult to translate in its right meaning but best way to define them is to call them what they were: former paramilitary unit (Suojeluskunta/homeguard) which have been whipped up quickly to fill role of regular troops. These guys were actually worse in some sense than Kalm divisions (for they at least acted like military unit and hold tribunals and so on) for these bastards murder and lootting seemed to be second nature (many incidents of killing civilians for killing sake are proven). Troops were led by Elja Rihtniemi (died in 1935, buried probably in Hietaniemi cemetary in Helsinki in case of needing second great place to urinate) who founding memebers leading reactionary party in Finland (National Coalition). His childrens have been and still are in considerable positions in National Coalition. Ties of that family now a days are considerable from public transport to journalism beside the political ties.
  6. NecroCommie
    NecroCommie
    Noh, oma isoisäni jäi orvoksi kun saamelaiset vanhemmat eivät sitten olleet tarpeeksi suomalaisia... Että sen verran silminnäkijää omassa suvussa.
  7. Punakaarti
    Punakaarti
    Nykyään verikoira-mannerheimin johdolla suoritettu työläisten teurastus olisi senverran iso juttu että siitä saatettaisi puhua jopa Haagin tuomioistuimessa kansanmurhana jota se tietysti olikin aikoinaan. Ja tuollaista pyöveliä tässä maassa palvotaan kuten mannerheim! Sen roiston kuvia ja nimeä on levitetty laajalle. Viimeiset Francon patsaat Espanjassa kaadettiin joku aika sitten. Helsingissä vielä kuten muutamassa muussakin paikassa möllöttää tuon valkolahtarin patsas.

    Jonka henkilökohtaisesta käskystä perustettiin keskitysleirit Neuvosto-Karjalan valloitetuille alueille yms.