'Councilism' V Council Communism?

  1. core_1
    core_1
    What are the specific differences or similarities? Which positions do you think hold more relevance to contemporary Capitalism?
  2. Devrim
    Devrim
    The ICC defines 'councilism' as the result of the anti-party ideas that developed in the German left in the 1930s. The following passage from the introduction to our book on the German/Dutch left although it is a bit over the top stylistically, gives the basic idea of what we say:

    This history of the German-Dutch communist left goes against the stream of present-day historiography. It does not aim to be a purely social history of this current. It aims to be a political history, restoring life and relevance to all the political and theoretical debates which developed within it. It aims to place this left in its international context, because otherwise its existence becomes incomprehensible. It aims above all to be a critical history, to show, without a priori assumptions or anathemas, its strengths and its weaknesses. It is neither an apology for nor a rejection of the German-Dutch communist current. It aims to show the roots of the councilist current, the better to underline its intrinsic weaknesses and explain the reasons for its disappearance. It also aims to show that the ideology of councilism expresses a movement away from the conceptions of revolutionary marxism, which were expressed in the 1930s by the Italian Left and the KAPD. And as such this ideology, close to anarchism, can be particularly pernicious for the future revolutionary movement, because of its rejection of the revolutionary organization and of the Russian revolution, and finally because of its rejection of the whole experience acquired by the past workers' and revolutionary movement. It is an ideology which disarms the revolutionary class and its organizations.
    http://en.internationalism.org/node/3076

    Devrim
  3. BureauOfAbsurdity13
    BureauOfAbsurdity13
    What are the specific differences or similarities? Which positions do you think hold more relevance to contemporary Capitalism?
    I was under the impression that they were just different ways of saying the same thing?
  4. Paulappaul
    Paulappaul
    I think Devrim is right BureauofAbsurdity
  5. RexCactus
    RexCactus
    They're basically the same ideology. It's a very, very minor split between Council Communists and Communists. It may grow into more or it may not, but as of now, it's negligible.